Are us powertool junkies any quicker than the old boys?

[Phil]

Although not as bad as Billy I myself am a powertool maniac and have to have all my expensive toys around me to do every single job.

I was doing a bathroom for a semi retired joiner who manages quite happily with only the most basic joinery tools and we even joked about the fact that by the time I've got all my toys out he would have opened his toobag and had the job done by the time I've finished unloading my gagets.

I mean I was helping my dad put his new hardwood door on the other week and you couldn't hardly move for kit everywhere...... Fein, router, SDS, impact driver, 10.8 drill driver, combi dril, circular saw, electric plane and god knows what else!

 

[lame plumber]

This wasn't a hard wall just it destroyed a few bits? Doing this by hand would have ruined my day!

why did you drill 2 holes for 1 flue?

 

[Ermintrude]

Left hit re bar 3 t18 ish bars in parallel!

 

[lame plumber]

there are times the old stiching method is best still 🙂

 

[Ermintrude]

U tried stitching. 450 ish thick concrete on second floor?

Stitching is loads faster. Normall pop a 10mm through center to outside then litter perimeter with 6mm and smash it out in seconds.

 

[lame plumber]

you want to try rubble walls with petersmarland brick outers. the bricks alone take around 30 to 50 mins to core safely. Putting the flue in for my own aga years back I hit a wall tie and ended up on the floor bleeding and unconscious as the drill clutch failed to work and it spun round and smacked me in the face. Never thought to sue screwfix, but a friend broke his fingers doing the same with a B&Q core drill, he got a hell of a sum off them several thousand, and BNQ now have disclaimers everywhere in using core drills.

 

[Mike Jackson]

I don't understand those either, for notches anyway. By the time you've got everything set up you could have made two cuts and wacked out notch with hammer.

Or you could cut the notch according to the regs and drill the bottom and cut two notches down to it. Not as quick as butchering the joist but a lot more professional.

 

[combo]

I've worked with a lot of tradesman, over a number of different trades and I reckon quality has taken 2nd place to getting the job done in shortest time......but who's to blame for that ??

 

[Roger Welton]

I've worked with a lot of tradesman, over a number of different trades and I reckon quality has taken 2nd place to getting the job done in shortest time......but who's to blame for that ??

Sadly very true!

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

you want to try rubble walls with petersmarland brick outers. the bricks alone take around 30 to 50 mins to core safely. Putting the flue in for my own aga years back I hit a wall tie and ended up on the floor bleeding and unconscious as the drill clutch failed to work and it spun round and smacked me in the face. Never thought to sue screwfix, but a friend broke his fingers doing the same with a B&Q core drill, he got a hell of a sum off them several thousand, and BNQ now have disclaimers everywhere in using core drills.

done that smashed my back teeth trough my tongue blood everywhere

 

[lame plumber]

done that smashed my back teeth trough my tongue blood everywhere

and you cant even curse properly with broken teeth and sore tongue from experience, plus you really scare the kids when you start tthhhhrying thoooo ssspeeek

 

[Phil]

To be fair on myself I snap off the cut out with grips, I avoid hitting joists for the sake of the ceilings downstairs but I can see how drilling two holes is better for the joist.

 

[Roger Welton]

To be fair on myself I snap off the cut out with grips, I avoid hitting joists for the sake of the ceilings downstairs but I can see how drilling two holes is better for the joist.

Round corners to hole less of a stress raiser on joist

 

[Best]

I was taught to just mark the top of the joists very accurately & cut on the lines dead plumb cuts but not too deep. Then use a wood chisel & hammer vertically to split the bit in the middle (that you have cut on each side) & then it will snap off with a little tap of hammer to the side unless it is a knotty bit which might need the handsaw through it in a lot of cuts.
Then just use a round rasp or a sharp wood saw to round the bottom of the notch out to allow the pipe to be below the bottom of floorboards.

 

[AWheating]

you could use plastic and thread it in the cable holes 😉.............. sadly ive seen it done.