Baxi 630i Error E133 Urgent Help

[Gilbbb92]

Good afternoon Guy's & Girl's,

So I have a Baxi 630i that is showing a e133 fault. Upon hours of extensive research it is an ignition fault that can be caused by numerous of issues.
One being that the condensate pipe is frozen, given the current weather and climate I edged my bets on this being the case too.
This first occurred on Sunday/Monday throughout out the night.
The boiler came on after work yesterday for around 2hours before showing the fault again. so no hot water or heating again.
After 10 kettle loads of warm water I have poured on the outside drain pipe (kitchen sink) it still wont fire up. After more investigation i have realised that the condensate pipe comes out of the trap, into the plasterboard, behind the kitchen cupboards and into the drain pipe under the kitchen sink. So this means the condensate pipe is all internal, and should not freeze? I took the trap out last night and cleaned it all out, not that it was particularly dirty in the first instance. Still not working.
To fully eliminate the "frozen condensate pipe" theory I disconnected the pipe from the bottom of the trap so the water would flow nicely in a basin under the boiler and bypassing the pipework behind the wall. However it still wont fire up, so it cant be the condensate issue?
The biggest curve ball in all of this is that it came on last night for two hours, so this would also eliminate a mechanical part failure?
I am completely at a loss and need as much advice as possible PLEASE!!! I have a 1year little girl that is having to go to bed in 12 layers of clothing and cannot get an engineer out until Tuesday.
Thank you in advance, Phil

 

[SimonG]

You'll need the gas safe engineer. At a premium at the minute. It's taking me 48 hours to get to my oil customers.

 

[Deleted member 120897]

E133 is ignition failure if it’s not to do with the condensate pipe. Basic questions - do you have sufficient credit on your gas? Has the gas been turned off in the street?

 

[Gilbbb92]

E133 is ignition failure if it’s not to do with the condensate pipe. Basic questions - do you have sufficient credit on your gas? Has the gas been turned off in the street?

E133 is ignition failure if it’s not to do with the condensate pipe. Basic questions - do you have sufficient credit on your gas? Has the gas been turned off in the street?

Thanks for your reply

 

[Gilbbb92]

Thanks for your reply

Thanks for your reply Chris, it is paid via direct debit monthly, so not on a top up meter.

 

[Gilbbb92]

Would the boiler recognise this is disconnected from the trap? I highly doubt it. However it does appear that condensate pipes are not the issue. That being said, why would the boiler come on for 2 hours if there is a mechanical part failure? I genuinely have no idea what it could be.

 

[Gilbbb92]

Would the boiler recognise this is disconnected from the trap? I highly doubt it. However it does appear that condensate pipes are not the issue. That being said, why would the boiler come on for 2 hours if there is a mechanical part failure? I genuinely have no idea what it could be.

The neighbours seems to be working fine, as i can see steam coming from their flue

 

[Deleted member 120897]

Would the boiler recognise this is disconnected from the trap?

Some can, some can’t. Seems you might need an engineer then as per @SimonG

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Have you got any other gas appliances?

 

[EvilDrPorkChop]

Be froze condensate, it will do ignition fault for a froze condensate and a variety of other ones too.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Be froze condensate, it will do ignition fault for a froze condensate and a variety of other ones too.

Or frozen gas reg

 

[Deleted member 120897]

Be froze condensate, it will do ignition fault for a froze condensate and a variety of other ones too.

OP then said in same 1st post:

After more investigation i have realised that the condensate pipe comes out of the trap, into the plasterboard, behind the kitchen cupboards and into the drain pipe under the kitchen sink. So this means the condensate pipe is all internal, and should not freeze?

 

[EvilDrPorkChop]

OP then said in same 1st post:

After more investigation i have realised that the condensate pipe comes out of the trap, into the plasterboard, behind the kitchen cupboards and into the drain pipe under the kitchen sink. So this means the condensate pipe is all internal, and should not freeze?

Only read the last few posts 😂

 

[Gilbbb92]

Have you got any other gas appliances?

Thanks Shaun,

Unfortunately not, i would of loved to test the gas supply through a hob.

Is it a common incident for gas supply to be at fault?

Thanks, Phil

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Thanks Shaun,

Unfortunately not, i would of loved to test the gas supply through a hob.

Is it a common incident for gas supply to be at fault?

Thanks, Phil

I’ve had two today frozen gas govners eg not letting gas out

Need a gas engineer to test either way sorry

 

[Gilbbb92]

I’ve had two today frozen gas govners eg not letting gas out

Need a gas engineer to test either way sorry

Thanks Shaun,

That could be the issue then, where are these governers situated? in the boiler?

Thanks for your help, Phil

 

[oz-plumber]

It could be a condensate fault.
If the line from the bottom of the heat exchanger to the trap is blocked, it will send out the E133 error.
There are sensors in the heat exchanger that will not allow the boiler to fire if they are tripped.

Condensate blockages are the main cause of the E133 fault. ( In my experience )

The heat exchanger probably need a clean - way beyond the realms of someone without experience working with boilers.

Not much you can do but wait for someone who knows how to repair boilers.

Also, there are about 10 other reasons why the boiler won't fire up - and throw this fault code at you

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Thanks Shaun,

That could be the issue then, where are these governers situated? in the boiler?

Thanks for your help, Phil

No normally attached to your gas meter

 

[Gilbbb92]

No normally attached to your gas meter

Thanks Shaun,

The gas meter is outside, so the frozen regulator could be plausible! I have put a hot water bottle over the top of it, so il leave that on there for 30mins, see if i have any joy! How did you fix the two you came across?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Boiling water on the reg sorted it out

 

[Gilbbb92]

Hi guys!

Thank you so much for your help!!

So it turns out the gas reg as Shaun advised was frozen, I poured hot water on it, and left a hot water bottle in the outside cupboard, and low and behold it works!!!

I have to say you guys have been super helpful, so massively appreciate all your help

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Glad your sorted