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JJayMan
If you are removing or installing tap back nuts then you won't beat this. You can leggo of it while you take abite out of your sandwich!, use a cordless to nut spin or a socket wrench for max torque and reach.
www.monument-tools.om/stiffnuts.htm
www.monument-tools.om/stiffnuts.htm
The Monument backnut kit looks interesting, but it misses the point when you want to work on backnuts and tailnuts with the supply pipework connected! Which is where Bearhug and other similar tools come in.
For example I have been called out three times in the last two weeks to sort out basin taps and kitchen taps that are leaking from beneath the basin/sink. Usually it proves to be the joint between the tap tail and the supply pipe. This is often caused by a loose backnut allowing the tap to rotate slightly in use and gradually work the joint loose and damage the fibre washer.
Remaking the joint by replacing the fibre washer and gunking it up cures the problem. But to do this involves removing the tap without having to remove or cut the supply pipework - which in turn involves removing both back and tail nuts with, for example, a Bearhug wrench.
I don't think that tube spanners and the above Monument tool can help you with this.
For example I have been called out three times in the last two weeks to sort out basin taps and kitchen taps that are leaking from beneath the basin/sink. Usually it proves to be the joint between the tap tail and the supply pipe. This is often caused by a loose backnut allowing the tap to rotate slightly in use and gradually work the joint loose and damage the fibre washer.
Remaking the joint by replacing the fibre washer and gunking it up cures the problem. But to do this involves removing the tap without having to remove or cut the supply pipework - which in turn involves removing both back and tail nuts with, for example, a Bearhug wrench.
I don't think that tube spanners and the above Monument tool can help you with this.
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JJayMan
Tap Backnuts can be tricky to take off especially as Stevetheplumber says when the've been glued on 30 years or more ago. In these situations there is really only one alternative to sawing the old brass tap out and that is one of those new tubular spanner things from monument tools. I think they call it s stiffy nut spanner or something. You can see a demo of it here YouTube - STIFFNUTS_REMOVAL_LIVE.wmv. It is also brilliant for installing new taps.
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danielp
yer that tool tbh honest is use less in that vid i dont think i have ever seen a space big enough for it let alone a drill aswell !
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JJayMan
Life is also too short to spend hours removing stuck on taps, I agree the vid looks as though you need loads of space, but it is only the size of a box spanner, the length is totally upto you. Don't knock it until you've tried it, I have and it does the job well.
"What does it do better than a box spanner", - its Stronger, has 7 different size sockets to suit all those cheap chinese imports, can be driven by a cordless or a ratchet and you can let go of it and it tays in place for when those arms are beginning to ache and you don't then have to realign the tool. Becasue it uses a thread sleeve to raise the socket it will clean the tap tail thread if it has been damaged or clogged up. It will do taps up tighter than most other tools meaning that the tap will not come loose again causing you a second visit later to retighten.
"What does it do better than a box spanner", - its Stronger, has 7 different size sockets to suit all those cheap chinese imports, can be driven by a cordless or a ratchet and you can let go of it and it tays in place for when those arms are beginning to ache and you don't then have to realign the tool. Becasue it uses a thread sleeve to raise the socket it will clean the tap tail thread if it has been damaged or clogged up. It will do taps up tighter than most other tools meaning that the tap will not come loose again causing you a second visit later to retighten.
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danielp
well i think you will be spending longer cutting and removing the pipe to get that thing in than you would with any tap spanner!
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JJayMan
danielhelp, please do not slate something irrationally until you have tried it, you really should not make comments like these on something you have not tried.
I used to say I did not like banana cake, then to my suprise one day I tried it and guess what it was fantastic. Go suck eggs.
I used to say I did not like banana cake, then to my suprise one day I tried it and guess what it was fantastic. Go suck eggs.
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danielp
the product its self is probably a good tool BUT like i said there is a 1 in million chance that you can get that under a bath and how can cutting the pipes out of the way be quicker than a normal tap spanner or the jaw dropper ?? stop eating your cake and read what i said ?
ive managed 35 years with a monument basin spanner and a box spanner only ocassionally having to cut them out
i can tighten any back nut to its full torque using them in fact a bigger problem is not overtightening to the point where the weak feeble excusses for back nuts we get now split
you can go on and on filling the van with gadgets till you need pickfords to deliver your tools
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JJayMan
Listen Danielp, I have never mentioned cutting out pipes in any of this thread, get your facts straight. Lets face it if I was going to cut a pipe, tap or sink off the wall why would I bother to undo stiff nuts.
All I have ever said is that the tool is great for all the reasons I have posted previosuly, I almost wish I had never bothered mentioning it because all I have had is criticism in you replies that are not fact but purely unfactual.
If I had an axe to grind I would have pointed out all the short comings of the bear hug tool you love so much, but I have not done so because I do not own one, therefore I am not qulified to say that it is useless.
Let call it quits, stop bitching, agree to differ and say you don't think you'd like a stiffnuts wrench or to use one, I do have one, I like it a lot and leave it at that.
All I have ever said is that the tool is great for all the reasons I have posted previosuly, I almost wish I had never bothered mentioning it because all I have had is criticism in you replies that are not fact but purely unfactual.
If I had an axe to grind I would have pointed out all the short comings of the bear hug tool you love so much, but I have not done so because I do not own one, therefore I am not qulified to say that it is useless.
Let call it quits, stop bitching, agree to differ and say you don't think you'd like a stiffnuts wrench or to use one, I do have one, I like it a lot and leave it at that.
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danielp
I have the bearhug wrenches and they are very good, somethimes they suffered from certain basin designs where they couldn't fit on and turn so I carefuly ground them down (not the jaws themselves) a bit and now they fit better in difficult basins.
Fantastic tool, no plumber should be without these.
Also I would'nt be without my wide jaw stubby adjustable spanner for basins aswell.
Fantastic tool, no plumber should be without these.
Also I would'nt be without my wide jaw stubby adjustable spanner for basins aswell.
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DSJ
Posting on a very old post, bit if anyone is still reading and willing to give advice the please give me your opinion on (Neilson basin wrench, 11" & 16" adjustables) any advice would be appreciated.
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