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Yep you know to walk away from that type!!

Three thing that should ring your 'Nightmare customer' alarm bells:

- I want to buy the materials myself . . . .

- I want to do some of the work myself . . . .

- (the one that tell you what to do - and then look over your shoulder while you do it!)

Yep time to put them walking shoes on!
 
There are some crazy people out there!

I had one lady who turned up in slippers and a dressing gown and attempted to sweep up a load of tiles I was removing in the bathroom - so much for my complaints . . . . .

One guy I worked for insisted on doing some of the work himself - like turning the water on and off. But he forgot that he was playing with an isolation valve in the kitchen earlier and left it on (nothing connected obviously!)

When he switched the water back on - whoosh !!! Yep he hosed the kitchen down quite nicely . . .

At least I couldn't be blamed for that!
 
Hi, I'm new here, need a bit of advice: I've replaced a heat sensor in a boiler and the customer is refusing to pay me until I provide him with proof of purchase for the sensor alongside my invoice for the job. Where do I stand on this legally? Am I legally able to refuse, and request immediate payment, or is he entitled to see receipts?

cheers

Your customer has no right at all to see your paper work - if he feels the price being charged for the part is excessive, then he can question what you are charging him for it, but that doesn't mean he has a right to know what you paid for it.

It's quite common for businesses to give a quote for labour, "plus parts", and if the part doesn't have a recommended retail price set by the manufacturer, it can be difficult to say what the part should be charged at.

So first off: has the manufacturer of the component set a RRP for the part? If they have, then there is a clear indicator of what the part should be charged out at. If you've had to order the part and collect it from a merchant, then that would justify an additional amount on top of the Recommended Retail Price.

If there is no RRP, then I think you would be well within your rights to charge what the part generally sells for at the top end of the regular price scale, plus something to cover your collection and admin costs.

However, if you are charging several times the regular selling price of the part, then maybe the customer has a case for challenging the cost to him.

If it ended up in the small claims court, the first thing the Judge would ask is: "what retail price does the manufacturer give for this part?"

If there isn't one, then the next question is likely to be: "what is the regular market price of the part .... highest and lowest?"

I think you would be given the benefit of charging at the higher rate, plus any other associated costs involved with obtaining the part. In fact, I reckon you would get away with charging x2 the higher regular price, because it would be accepted that you are making your living from supplying such parts.

If it goes to x3 +, then I think you would need to have a reasonable explanation as to why the cost is higher than would seem reasonable.

If you've given your customer your Invoice for the work showing labour costs and the price of the part, and your explanation of your charging, then it's up to him to either pay the bill, or risk being taken to the Small Claims Court for recovery of the debt. Which you can set up on-line, (all of which is explained on the relevant website) and it won't cost you much - you don't need a solicitor, all you need is your paper work and an explanation of your side of things.

But if you send the customer a Recorded Delivery letter giving him 28 days to pay, or you will start proceedings in the SCC, it's odds-on that you will get your bill paid well before it gets to that.
 
I am thinking of asking for cash in advance!

At least if you are a mechanic they don't get their car back until they have paid - it sort of encourages them doesn't it . . . . .

On bigger jobs I am reluctant to give back the keys until I am paid in full as you still have a loose right of access if you have them.

Who would be a plumber huh?!?!!
 
what i do now on heating installs is to leave the commisioning and cetification until i receive payment so they cannot use the heating until payment received
 
they are long about getting reddies out when you tell them this and it was great way to deal with a chancer of a customer who tried to npull a fast one on me .he tried the im off to work see you about 4 .30 and then calls to say he wont be back as something has come up I told him fine but the gas valve is locked and boiler wont be commisioned until payment is received . he was soon back on to say hed be home with half the money i told him id call back tomorrow for the full amount
 
All to common a problem these days, ive seen it cheeper on line, good well you buy it, if it dont work its down to you to sort it out, is there any warranty with the part ? is it a genuine part or a cheep copy from china, I am quite happy for them to do the running around for parts, as long as they pay for my time, and they understand that i will not put any gurantee on what has been fitted.
 

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