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I have seen with my own eyes and heard things with my own ears on this HA contract work I have done in the past , and all that are biting on it is people that know that this is how it's 100%
 
Have you ever been in the position where you have needed help from the state, eg you have lost your job, (it happens) more so in the building industry, you've been self employed, no option but to sign on only to be told that your not entitled to anything. then they show programs like this, get a house, car money left over to send back to wherever, Its to late to do anything about it now, no mater what government party are in power, So just keep paying your taxes and bend over even further cos were not finished shafting you yet, Roll on the Revolution.

The old boy who trained me had a blood clot on the lung when I was working with him he was off work for months with a mortgage etc to pay he went into see if he could get help whilst he was off sick (Bearing in mind he had worked from the age of 14 or 15 in the UK and always paid taxes apart from a few side jobs here and there) He was told you can claim nothing as you have a job and are getting sick pay (£50 something pound I think) when he said the sick pay wouldnt cover his mortgage let alone other bills they just said well use your savings then, He turned around and said I have small savings but not that much.

It makes you sick a person pays tax for 30-40 years and through a genuine illness for 6 months e couldnt get any help. I think he did start doing more side jobs though to recover the savings he used. lol
 
My old nextdoor neighbour is a prime example. He has not worked for at least 15 years he is on sick benefit for a bad back and depression. He smokes 30-40 a day, has sky tv, Laptop, Broadband, Laptop, nice TV, 3 cats 1 large excitable dog that he takes out for regular walks.

If he really had a bad back then he wouldnt be able to take the dog out for a walk as it is a large collie which jumps at everyone he knows with some force and he also has the most immaculate garden out of the surrounding gardens and he used to mow mine and 3 other neighbours lawns (mine was about 2ft high when he started doing it and he had the cheek to ask for £10). I'm not surprised he is depressed though as he hardly see's anyone and that gets me as well so going out to work would help that.

He was taken off sick and put onto job seekers as they assesed him again and said that he could work and they gave him a care worker to fight the case for him and when he got put back on the sick he got back payed for it!

When I worked on HA work I would say 40% were hard working people 10% were genuine and looking for work and 50% played the system. You could always tell as those that played the system had nicer houses.
 
Now all you lot have had your rants, do you honestly believe as truth what you are shown in programs like this ?

Does it not occur to you that your reactions are exactly what they are designed to foster & promote, these programs are not based in fact, there is no checks on what is true.

My old dad had strong views but always impressed upon us to always be doubting & question what we are being told, especially by the media. A few simple checks & some independent research / reading reveals truth.

You could say "its just TV or a bit of raised blood pressure" & it don't really matter but allow yourself to be taken in by this diatribe & that way lies great danger, apart from anything else it makes crap telly.

Seriously i dont think its put on just for viewing and its happening alot more than folks think... you have folk that have had nothin to do with HA or council work and they stay in a nice house in nice area and forget what lifes like for the dole bludgers in the bronx. Some of the poor kids in these areas are not bein shown a good example and feel that its a normal way of life . Ive seen it with my own eyes...
 
Seriously i dont think its put on just for viewing and its happening alot more than folks think... you have folk that have had nothin to do with HA or council work and they stay in a nice house in nice area and forget what lifes like for the dole bludgers in the bronx. Some of the poor kids in these areas are not bein shown a good example and feel that its a normal way of life . Ive seen it with my own eyes...

The real problem is yet to come , when all this kids will need to get a job , and there luck of motivation and dedication will not help them at all . I honestly fill sorry for all of them
 
Your right safegas its nit gonna be the best of a new generation. As time goes on kids are changin big time. The lack of respect for adults has dwindled there never off there xbox and because there more spoiled now than we ever were there lack of understanding the value of money and a hard days work is lacking. Dont get me wrong i dont mean every kid but theres a big change i see workin in folks homes...
 
Your right safegas its nit gonna be the best of a new generation. As time goes on kids are changin big time. The lack of respect for adults has dwindled there never off there xbox and because there more spoiled now than we ever were there lack of understanding the value of money and a hard days work is lacking. Dont get me wrong i dont mean every kid but theres a big change i see workin in folks homes...
I bet they said exactly the same thing just after the Vikings first settled.
Bloody mob come in here robbing & pillaging, they have no idea of the value of money nor a hard days work in the fields. The kids are just as bad still look at the role models they have !!

Tiss the cry of every older person, from every generation through out the ages --- Bloody Kids, they will be the death of me / us, it was never like his in my day !!!
 
Tried as hard as I could not to read this thread, but got sucked in. Hate it hate it hate it. It's everything that's wrong with this country. Doesn't matter which party is in power they're all too scared to impact the benefits scum (the ones that DON'T deserve it) as they're terrified of losing votes. I'm all for helping those that can't help themselves but screw the ones that don't want to work and want everything for free and think their human rights are being infringed upon if anyone ever says no to them. Same goes for the NHS, I'm sorry unless you've been disfigured in an accident or are born with some kind of physical defect then no sort of cosmetic surgery or treatment should be available to you for free just because you don't think you're tall/pretty/thin/boobs big enough. Enough is enough, I'm sick of paying for it and tv programmes like this just seem to rile those that are paying for others to sit on their fat lazy @rses and do nothing. God this is why I think about moving abroad :smile: rant over
 
I moved here back in 2000 . And I did work hard really hard . I did not even speak, read , write English at all , let alone any skills !
Worked hard learned and gone college and no support from government at all
 
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Good luck stan but if u dong already use them youl have to change to Testo ( germanys finnest test equipment) 330-1 youve done really well with everything youve acvomplished and your obviously a really hard worker so well done.
 
Change it's a must in curent situation ... And every one should be able to look in to near future by simply observing what's going on now and what foundation we are putting down for the nearest future ......
 
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I have begun to watch people (usually men out with their wives) who use a walking aid, like a proper metal stick or crutch. What I notice is most of them walk normally with both feet flat to the ground & the stick rarely touching the ground & not being leaned on. Incapacity benefit I guess.
Something that's been on my mind recently is this, - why if someone has a genuine slight disability, like say a bad leg that causes a limp, do they need substantial extra money to other people? Where is the extra cost of living to them compared to someone on standard benefits?
 
I moved here back in 2000 . And I did work hard really hard . I did not even speak, read , write English at all , let alone any skills !
Worked hard learned and gone college and no support from government at all

Stan u liar! You could right well enough to claim your £750 a week in benifits . That's how u afford them VW's
 
It could get a bit too interesting for people like your good self Stan, if this develops & the wrong sort of people get elected you could find that you are asked to leave despite all your hard work !!!
See I is got not a problem with this pal , can you imagine all foreigners to be asked to leave UK ?????? That will mean 80% of the work force and millions of pounds out of the country 🙂
just a reminder that all hotels and restourant a in central London are owned by Arab, Russian and Jewish people .
If you suggest remove of foreigners please explain to me what would happen to all mixed race people ????
 
I don't think all foreigners should be deported, I think all scroungers should be EXTERMINATED. It's acceptable for other vermin to die a slow and painful death so why not human scroungers? I wouldn't exterminate Stan..... He can just be banished to working for engineers and ex Forman joiners.

Got absolutely nothing against foreigners coming over here taking all the jobs..... Nurse gp surgeons, arse wipers cleaners hold diggers even plumbers. I hate the native and forgiven vermin ( not sparkies - career benefits claimants )
 
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Problem is foreigners in England are all people from outside England and if all are to be removed this will mean that people from : Ireland , Canada , USA , Norway , France , Poland , Bulgaria , India , Pakistan , Afghanistan , China , Brazil , Cuba , Ecuador , Nigeria , South Africa ....... List goes on ....
So Chris please explain .....
Plus no one can remove me from uk as I has a faick passport man ! Everyone can get one this days (as demand has fallen down )
 
I don't think all foreigners should be deported, I think all scroungers should be EXTERMINATED. It's acceptable for other vermin to die a slow and painful death so why not human scroungers? I wouldn't exterminate Stan..... He can just be banished to working for engineers and ex Forman joiners.

Got absolutely nothing against foreigners coming over here taking all the jobs..... Nurse gp surgeons, arse wipers cleaners hold diggers even plumbers. I hate the native and forgiven vermin ( not sparkies - career benefits claimants )

This is whay goverment open borders when they see that there is shortage of labour in difrent fields , but along with the good sheep you know well that scum bags will come over too ! There is a lot of highly educated foreigners that work in the city of London , so you want them out too Chris ?
 
Dont think chris suggested that, I think he meant if people become more angry after watching this stuff and start supporting certain party's..I think ?

So it's the same thing mate , if you are on about UKIP and they win election ! So imagine all foreigners out who will then take all there low and high educated jobs ??? Where will England get all ther doctors , solicitors , corner shop owners , petrol guarage owners , Chinese take away , Indian take away , mini can drivers ...... List goes on

resently notice there is few MP that are not English , how you gonna get them out ???
 
So it's the same thing mate , if you are on about UKIP and they win election ! So imagine all foreigners out who will then take all there low and high educated jobs ??? Where will England get all ther doctors , solicitors , corner shop owners , petrol guarage owners , Chinese take away , Indian take away , mini can drivers ...... List goes on

resently notice there is few MP that are not English , how you gonna get them out ???

Never mentioned ukip mate. I'm off anyway getting some dejavu. Haha.
 
The only foreigners that pee me off are the ones who come over to our green and pleasant land and then have the cheek to moan about it and insult it!
 

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