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I can't remember what my Hilmors were like when they were new tbh, but they're a vast improvement on my the way they've ended up. They're identical tbh, but made in the uk.
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I've ordered the bend it now ones as there seems to be a few good reviews on here. Where can you buy copper pipe made in the UK nowadays?
Ray with your buying clout you should set up a UK copper pipe manufacturer and sell it all to Williams & Co cheaply! Let's bring back UK manufacturing I say.
I don't think you can be sure of any of it. Wednesbury sold out to Mueller. Yorkshire belongs to KME. I think Lawtons still manufacture in the UK, but I am not sure if they do all sizes in the UK.
Lawtons is really good pipe. About the only ones who sell it up this way are william wilsons.
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