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I have an opinion same as everyone has just be glad we can express one I say.
paulusgg
Gas Engineer
I'm all for voting "leave" but would like to be persuaded to vote "stay". The problems I'm facing are both camps presenting the arguments for or against as facts when they are all clearly just suppositions. £4,300 worse off if we leave, food price inflation, defence problems and the good old story of rampant immigration, security problems if we remain......
The whole experiment seems to have suffered from massive mission creep as the eurocrats strive for more and deeper integration that brings us closer to a Federal Europe. Not what was initially envisaged, ie a Common Market.
I'm with Ghandi who said in 1915 that government is best that governs least and that is most certainly not the case with EU membership which micromanages just about every aspect of our personal and business lives.
I think I may just have persuaded myself which way to vote!
The whole experiment seems to have suffered from massive mission creep as the eurocrats strive for more and deeper integration that brings us closer to a Federal Europe. Not what was initially envisaged, ie a Common Market.
I'm with Ghandi who said in 1915 that government is best that governs least and that is most certainly not the case with EU membership which micromanages just about every aspect of our personal and business lives.
I think I may just have persuaded myself which way to vote!
Human rights is not a mistake by miles!
Human rights can and has been used sometimes to the advantage of people in the wrong though. Actual human rights abusers can simply use the laws to their advantage and actually infringe the human rights of others.
My worry is it overrules our government. Take examples of a murderer or terrorist who is also an illegal immigrant that our government attempts to deport, but cannot because European human rights say his rights will be infringed. Doesn't seem to take in account that the person is a threat to us.
Had it over here with terrorists
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Agree with that and the "Can`t send them home because their home country is unsafe, their gay or their life will be in danger", well sorry but you can`t come here and get up to no good either so I like 3 strikes and your out!!!
T
ThePlumbingDr
It's In from Us!
Sadly that's Daily Mail tripe.
Lol! No, - very sadly it is totally true and available for any of us to view from previous EU human rights rulings, laws and also our UK courts, police services and Westminister details of such cases. I am confident if the Daily Mail and other numerous papers and other media and independent sources were wrong, that it could easily be proved that EU rulings never influenced various cases.
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Take a look at this, - particularly the European Human Rights Court ruling. There are plenty of other reports of this can be searched for, if anyone doubts it.
I never have felt the EU human rights had concern for ordinary people.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loughgall_ambush
I never have felt the EU human rights had concern for ordinary people.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loughgall_ambush
Best has a very valid point, it has been commonplace for the EU to overrule UK laws/situations & undermine the country as we have not abided by some of the ludicrous laws that have come from the EU.
The poor terrorists who met there untimely ends in the above article did not/never cared a single jot for the innocent people injured during the troubles but them & there supporters were always at the front of the queue screaming out about the infringements to there rights.
Those terrorists got summary justice & it's a pity it was not dished out more often back then.
It would off been a good disincentive to perpetrate such acts if you knew you would be judged like that for the acts that they attempted to carry out.
As for voting in the EU referendum I am OUT & think that we should be more like Australia with border controls & immigration.
Original concept of free trade within Europe, yes happy with, countries working together against terrorism, yes good idea, retention of national identity, yes.
Freedom for mass uncontrolled economic immigration throughout Europe & letting in other countries economic refugees without health, wealth & background checks, no. no. no......
Lets put the great back into GREAT BRITAIN & stand up for ourselves & trade freely with the world.
The poor terrorists who met there untimely ends in the above article did not/never cared a single jot for the innocent people injured during the troubles but them & there supporters were always at the front of the queue screaming out about the infringements to there rights.
Those terrorists got summary justice & it's a pity it was not dished out more often back then.
It would off been a good disincentive to perpetrate such acts if you knew you would be judged like that for the acts that they attempted to carry out.
As for voting in the EU referendum I am OUT & think that we should be more like Australia with border controls & immigration.
Original concept of free trade within Europe, yes happy with, countries working together against terrorism, yes good idea, retention of national identity, yes.
Freedom for mass uncontrolled economic immigration throughout Europe & letting in other countries economic refugees without health, wealth & background checks, no. no. no......
Lets put the great back into GREAT BRITAIN & stand up for ourselves & trade freely with the world.
Allgoode, - that was all good. :smile:
The EU want to micromanage every country in Europe, the better the country does the more it is Forced to contribute..
Passing that money onto failing countries..
More rules and regulations being passed every year which help to close small businesses..
These unelected Eurocrats passing laws on this country when only 3% are British..
Our sovereignty is diluted and it'll likely get worse, more power going to a program we the people cant control is pretty scary..
The EU want a United States of Europe Run through the back door, 27 other countries voting on UK laws and regulations making our own Parliament look like pawns..
To me it stinks..
Passing that money onto failing countries..
More rules and regulations being passed every year which help to close small businesses..
These unelected Eurocrats passing laws on this country when only 3% are British..
Our sovereignty is diluted and it'll likely get worse, more power going to a program we the people cant control is pretty scary..
The EU want a United States of Europe Run through the back door, 27 other countries voting on UK laws and regulations making our own Parliament look like pawns..
To me it stinks..
Why is that then?
Can you give your reasons for staying in ? What do you get out of staying in ? This Country can survive without European dominance
I'm curious as to the reasons people want us to stay in .
Which EU funded webpage did you find this on?
Wouldn't say busted thats common knowledge.
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