thank you for the feedback Danny,always appreciated to all of us on the forum,and i agree with what you say but people are people 2 pm,s this week thanking me for my help but last week none,we give advice for several reasons to help guys like us out,as you have asked and very capably sorted out,and( i may need your advice one day)and to help others(when we think they wont kill them selves)as it was pointed out to me the other day,this forum is growing and is already good but we dont settle for that on here we are the best,and if we cant ask each other(which we could not without the forum,could in the merchants but most are miserable gits) whats the point of the word colleague ?we are all learning all the time