Gas fire ventilation

[pszemek2]

Hi All.

hope someone will be able to help. I have a gas fire coals and i need to calculate ventilation for it.

any advise appreciated
thanks

 

[Kyle87]

Good luck 😉

 

[Roger Welton]

What does the manufacturer say?

 

[pszemek2]

no info from manufacturer

 

[buckley plumb]

where are the coals ? is it home made

 

[pszemek2]

it is not home made. it is verry old. coals removed, they will get new.

 

[buckley plumb]

if you have the info to get new coals why not the info for ventilation - you need the manufacturers info to position the coals

 

[Resolute]

Are you GSR? Think its time for a new fire.

 

[fast phil]

Thats scrap mate

 

[Kyle87]

This should help with the required ventilation!!

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

LOOKING AT THAT PICTURE AND THE INVISABLE DATA BADGE and deducting 7 kw x5 i make your ventilation requirement to be 75,00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 cm2
so best bet would be to remove your house and position it east bound to let the draft in:smilielol5:

 

[pszemek2]

I know that this scrap. Ebey but you can buy similar

ELAN BLACK WITH BACK FIRE BASKET WITH GAS FIRE CHOICE OF COALS OR PEBBLES | eBay

 

[AWheating]

the gas regulations require a appliance to be installed to the manufacturers instructions, if they are not present and can not be obtained then you can not fit the fire. Your gas safe engineer should have explained this to you??

 

[buckley plumb]

I know that this scrap. Ebey but you can buy similar

ELAN BLACK WITH BACK FIRE BASKET WITH GAS FIRE CHOICE OF COALS OR PEBBLES | eBay

total different fire that one is designed for a fire assy to be fitted under the basket.

 

[garythegas]

Looks like home made job,accident waiting to happen,bin it.

 

[Reg Man]

LOOKING AT THAT PICTURE AND THE INVISABLE DATA BADGE and deducting 7 kw x5 i make your ventilation requirement to be 75,00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 cm2
so best bet would be to remove your house and position it east bound to let the draft in:smilielol5:

This is a DFE, in the absence of instructions, Refer to BS5871 part 3, which states 100cm2. Get a GSR man in to check this one out it looks like its one that should be dumped.

 

[Reg Man]

May be we should elaborate why it should be dumped. For starters, it has no flame supervision device, it has no ignition device, it is zero efficient. I think that we should be well past the days of turning on the gas and chucking a match at the fire to light it. If you have no data badge and no manufacturer instructions you can not legally fit it anyway.

 

[Mike Jackson]

I reckon there's zero chance of a GSR installer getting anywhere near this. It just screams DIY to me.

 

[Whyme]

Even if it was in working order etc it would be cheaper to burn tenners to keep warm.

 

[Leigh]

don't there is a reason they are called sky heaters !!!!!

 

[chelsea]

don't let the corrosion put you off, just give it a lick of black paint and stand in the corner flipping a coin with a matchstick in your mouth

 

[Simon F]

as already stated, it is illegal to fit a gas appliance without the manufacturers installation instructions available.
The heat lost from this type of appliance would be about 80 percent up the chimney.
the size of permanent ventilation required would mean the room would be cold when the fire was not in use, if the fire was used it would then be drawing in more air through the vent,
it is a visual thing only that would have a negative affect on the room.
I think the best advice if you want to keep it is remove the gubbings, clean it up, black lead it, fit a couple of nice candles to provide the visual effect.
if the room is not sufficiently heated, look at improving the radiators or get an electric blow heater, but don't mistake what you have as a heat source.

 

[Reg Man]

Quote>visual thing only

Hence the term Decorative in DFE