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southcoastboile

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Went to a job the other day and found wp of 9mbar at boiler, this was without running the fire and cooker! found gas meter installed in the middle of the room, 15mm supply to all appliances from meter outlet.

ID'D installation, found 18mbar wp at meter so I called out southern gas to change the regulator.

Even with this set at 21mbar the pipework will still be way undersized.

I left the job and told customer I would quote to fit a new gas pipe.

Anyway heres my question..............southern gas had told customer that the gas supply to the meter was run in track pipe under the floor and they would send a surveyor to have a look at relocating meter. It was not allowed to be run like this due to fire risk.

Is this something we should be checking ourselves? how do you know if this is the case? obviously there are loads of meters installed indoors. Will they connect appliances back up as well if they move meter or will they just leave it capped at the outlet?
 
I suspect that they will want to relocate the meter to outside in a meter box.
They'll prob do this free but will expect cust to have outlet pipework connected at their own cost.

Who in their right mind would run a service pipe in tracpipe???
 
Went to a job the other day and found wp of 9mbar at boiler, this was without running the fire and cooker! found gas meter installed in the middle of the room, 15mm supply to all appliances from meter outlet.

ID'D installation, found 18mbar wp at meter so I called out southern gas to change the regulator.

Even with this set at 21mbar the pipework will still be way undersized.

I left the job and told customer I would quote to fit a new gas pipe.

Anyway heres my question..............southern gas had told customer that the gas supply to the meter was run in track pipe under the floor and they would send a surveyor to have a look at relocating meter. It was not allowed to be run like this due to fire risk.

Is this something we should be checking ourselves? how do you know if this is the case? obviously there are loads of meters installed indoors. Will they connect appliances back up as well if they move meter or will they just leave it capped at the outlet?

if the supply is done in trac pipe (the semi rigid stainless pipe) then where is the fire risk? not saying its a perfect way of doing it, but thats not the same as saying its a fire risk, it is classed the same as steel and copper and only needs to be fitted as per MI or BS6891 to be OK
 
I did not even see the supply to the meter (burried at the back of a cuboard half below ground level), customer told me thats what southern gas had said. Never heared of it before.
 
Reading the installation instructions it appears that tracpipe is approved for installation pipe work but not service pipe work.


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*If* the service is Trak Pipe, then it has been installed by someone other then the gas utility company.
Maybe they meant the service had been inserted? If the company cannot provide 21 +/-2mbar at the meter outlet under full meter capacity then it is up to them to move the meter and connect to the original outlet point. If the service has been built over, or moved by another, then the supplier will leave a capped outlet, unless they are feeling particularly generous.
 

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