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Jun 11, 2017
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Hi,
I have a two bedroomed flat that I rent which I am going to completely renovate. I have pretty much decided on electric radiators but not sure how to heat the water. Seems like instant water has problems with filling a bath and so will probably need a hot water cylinder. Should I be heating it with gas or electric? I can vent it up a flue if necessary. Thinking a bit about the future of gas v electric and phasing out of gas.
Also what type of cylinder?
Thank you.
 
It costs 3 to 4 times more to heat water using electricity….

And to run the heating.

Can I ask why you’ve decided on electric heating?

I rented a place with electric heating, worst decision ever.
 
Gas isn't being phased out.
Natural gas is, but Nat Gas / Hydrogen mix will be gradually taking over, eventually leading to all Hydrogen gas, unless some other gas comes along in the meantime.
 
And to run the heating.

Can I ask why you’ve decided on electric heating?

I rented a place with electric heating, worst decision ever.
Thanks, why then is gas not permitted in new construction after 2025? On the electric radiators, i thought it easier than running pipes through walls and also thought with all the latest technology to control the radiators they would be a good choice especially with the rising price of gas. It is very confusing.
 
Thanks, why then is gas not permitted in new construction after 2025?
To cut down on the total amount of Nat Gas being used untill another solution is found.

Once gas is no longer originates from fossil fuel and the replacement is found to do no harm to the environment then gas will be allowed back in domestic properties or will be used in district heating schemes for Domestic.
 
It costs 3 to 4 times more to heat water using electricity….
Interesting if in the longer term they will tax the gas more to get us onto the electric, but until we build all those SMR . . .

Interesting despite edict from Kwasi on coal, there is none running this morning:


Probably a bit of work to do to get the coal up and running, especially with hardly any mines left.

We need to focus on diversity of workable supplies. Get drilling in the North Sea.

Those new estates on the edge of town next to greenfields could have ground source, and better insulation, but we build the same old houses. Building regs on insulation are about to change but seems like they forgot the ventilation . . .
 
Interesting if in the longer term they will tax the gas more to get us onto the electric, but until we build all those SMR . . .

Interesting despite edict from Kwasi on coal, there is none running this morning:


Probably a bit of work to do to get the coal up and running, especially with hardly any mines left.

We need to focus on diversity of workable supplies. Get drilling in the North Sea.

Those new estates on the edge of town next to greenfields could have ground source, and better insulation, but we build the same old houses. Building regs on insulation are about to change but seems like they forgot the ventilation . . .

the UK rarely burns coal for electrical generation these days.

the concern is that should they go out, restarting them isn’t easy
 
A modern condensing boiler installed correctly with 'true' weather comp controls and a well insulated house/flat is the cheapest way to run it (and most environmentally friendly in my opinion).
Combi boilers are good enough if they suit your requirements. If you go for a cylinder, don't over size it.
 

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