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PhoenixServices

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Hi guys how you all had a good Christmas and new year.
I know leaflets have been covered a lot before but I'm hoping to get some designed soon and would like some ideas.

If you have a leaflet would you mind p'ming me a copy so I can get a few ideas of what to put on one.
Tar very much. Ed
 
Think you'll need to say where in the country you are first, doubt you'll have any input if others think you are near their patch
 
Market research shows that leafleting is not what worth the effort and money. Less than 1% return on effort and expenditure. Why not put your time and money into creating a proper marketing and advertising campaign, with a decent budget, using modern media aimed at your target market, monitor the enquirers to see which media produce s the most valuable enquiries. Leaflets are just to hit and miss.
 
Market research shows that leafleting is not what worth the effort and money. Less than 1% return on effort and expenditure.

Do you have a source for that research Radioman? It seems to contradict much of what I have heard, albeit anecdotally.
 
Personally I've never had much success with Leaflet drops over the years, most people tend to bin things that drop through letterbox, Local paper/shops seem to produce best results, But I've not done any for years ! Modern times seem to lean towards Facebook & other social media + a lot depends on where you are and amount of other plumbers in your area
 
I rarely look at leaflets probably because I get so many drop through the letterbox every week, if you don`t live in a city then try advertising in local church magazines and such like, seem to remember other members saying it works for them.
 
Do you have a source for that research Radioman? It seems to contradict much of what I have heard, albeit anecdotally.

Hi Ray, I will dive into my records next week and see what I can find. On our own research we found that leaflets are very hit and miss.
Due to my consultant background I was very hot on monitoring where the enquiries came from and charted those against the expenditure for those adverts. A simple enquiry form kept in the office and in the van.


First issue was did they actually get delivered? We found by targeting a post code and then door stepping random properties the leaflets had not been delivered. Common problem when paying companies to deliver them for you. To do it for ourselves was monumentally time consuming. Another issue was it is like a shotgun approach to marketing, not specific enough, not targeted enough. For example we found a better hit rate by putting a simple post card through the doors immediately adjacent to where we had a job site. For example if we where doing a bathroom or similar job in a road, we sent the boy off to post the cards through all the doors in the road. The card said something like " we are currently working at number X, if you would like advice or estimates on any of the following works please come and have a chat" then a list of works, company details, etc. We definitely picked up work from that approach.
Also another problem with leaflet drops is the other trades that do it: Garden clearance, roofers, tree surgeons from the local travellers site, etc etc. Gives the wrong impression. We also found that local press adverts worked 10 years ago, but have zero effect now unless you include the words "discount for OAP". That alone told us of the age group that still used the paper as a source of tradesman. Not our target market for £10,000 plus bathrooms and kitchen. Ok for tap changes and shower leaks though but that was not enough to cover the cost of the advert.

Our best bang for buck was Facebook, specifically a group for the town we where based in. I made sure we posted regularly with before and after pictures of jobs and got clients to post as well.

Second was the web site. Not a diy job but a pro production, maintained and updated. I was very very sceptical at first but it was a real money spinner for us. Research showed that in our area, which is a high income commuter dormitory town, the 25 to 40 age groups use social media and the Internet almost exclusively for sourcing info and trades.

Lastly for now, here's one activity that practically no one does: every 3 months we called each and every customer from the same 3months last year and did a follow up call. I can tell you it can be very pleasant but can also be unpleasant, but I reckon we kept more customers that way than we gained by advertising and marketing. It was dinned into me when I was at GM Tech in Michigan many many years ago,
A business loses 1/3 of its customer base every year due to a number of factors you cannot control, so you have to replace those customers every year just to stay the same and staying the same means moving backwards.
Regards
Tim
 
Thanks Radioman

I certainly wouldn't pay anyone else to deliver leaflets - I have always seen it as an activity for family members or the principle himself (or herself).

Leaflet design and targeting would be crucial. Even timing the drop is important.

I haven't done it myself, but from our experience of other forms of marketing, I would expect a well designed leaflet, clearly identifying a worthwhile USP, with a strong call-to-action delivered in the correct neighbourhood at a good time to give a worthwhile ROI.

However, I would also expect a poorly designed leaflet, with no differentiated USP or obvious call-to-action, delivered to the wrong properties at the wrong time to be a complete waste of time and money.
 
Thanks Radioman

I certainly wouldn't pay anyone else to deliver leaflets - I have always seen it as an activity for family members or the principle himself (or herself).

Leaflet design and targeting would be crucial. Even timing the drop is important.

I haven't done it myself, but from our experience of other forms of marketing, I would expect a well designed leaflet, clearly identifying a worthwhile USP, with a strong call-to-action delivered in the correct neighbourhood at a good time to give a worthwhile ROI.

However, I would also expect a poorly designed leaflet, with no differentiated USP or obvious call-to-action, delivered to the wrong properties at the wrong time to be a complete waste of time and money.

Agree Ray but it is very time consuming. It is good for specific offers like call out, discount, stock clearance etc. A variation of it we tried was on the back door of our sign written vehicles we put a container with the company post cards in with a sign over saying help yourself, that got emptied every 7 days or so. Also a neglected skill is answering the telephone correctly, we found from records that if we gave any indication of cost of job on a first contact call we never even got as far as doing an estimate. What we then did was take number, name, address, description of job, where call was generated from, promise to call back. Then make the call back when he pressure was off. Simple enquiry form kept in van and office.
 
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can you elaborate on what you mean by obvious call to action ray?

do you mean some sort of offer or something like that?

It can be an offer, but doesn't have to be. Ask yourself this question. Your customer has read your leaflet. What do you want them to do next?

The worst thing that can happen is that they read the leaflet, are vaguely interested, but don't take any follow up action.

Your call to action might be:

Call us now on 0800-1234567, for your free quotation
Return the postage-paid reply card and we will call to book in your half-price boiler service
Visit our website at www.watertightplumbing.co.uk
Fix this handy magnetic business card to the side of your boiler, so you know who to call when it goes wrong
Register your email address with us to receive handy tips on looking after your property

These are just examples. It can be anything that moves the customer along the path from potential interest to placing a firm order. Its absolutely key to turning interest into money.
 
Gotcha.

Or if you want to appeal to the least possible effort required from them "Keep this card safe in case of emergencies."
 
Hi guys in answer to your questions.
I cover mainly oxfordshire.
I get all of my work through word of mouth but this year I want to grow the business and not have to do any subbing.
So will be doing a large advertising campaign.
This will involve a professionally designed website, leaflets, Facebook, Twitter. Business cards and local papers.

I have become stuck on the leaflets so came to the forum for advise.
Many thanks Ed
 
Never had very much success with the old leaflets. Tried to cherry pick the more affluent streets in the town.
 
Hi guys in answer to your questions.
I cover mainly oxfordshire.
I get all of my work through word of mouth but this year I want to grow the business and not have to do any subbing.
So will be doing a large advertising campaign.
This will involve a professionally designed website, leaflets, Facebook, Twitter. Business cards and local papers.

I have become stuck on the leaflets so came to the forum for advise.
Many thanks Ed

Do those little parish sort of magazines still get printed around Oxfordshire?
 
Rpm
Yeah quite a lot of churches and stuff do like a parish news etc with advertising at the end.
Some of them are full of 4 or 5 plumbers and some have none in, so you have to research which ones it's worth putting an advert in.

Radioman I appreciate your advise I was going to do a trial of my local village with an offer of say £10 off your first boiler service and just see what the uptake was before shelling out for 20,000 leaflets, even if it directs people to my website it would be worth the money I feel.

(Reminds me to get the van sign written too)
 
How much would you pay to get a static billboard with the same area as your van? For : You own your van and its mobile and always outside your workplace. Against: you pay more for insurance and the vans worth less second hand, and you must keep it looking good.
 
I wouldnt bother with leaflets personally.
From my experience and that of friends etc they get filed in the bin without even being looked at.
Around here we get sick and tired of letterbox garbage from fast food pizza and kebab shops. Unless its in an envelope the whole lot gets scooped up and thrown out
 
Why not try vistaprint!
Where you can upload your own review and make to suit.
They also do a"your" free demonstration package.
 
I have had 3 leaflet drops 1 bad 1 good and 1 great.

I think a lot of it comes down to timing, the first when I set up didn't cover itself but advertising heating repairs etc in May/June when people don't think about it. September was good and almost quadrupled what it cost me. End of Jan though worked awesome and took over 10 times what it cost me.

All of those I had someone deliver them and found him to be great and reliable (ish) he did used to say I'm going out on such a day then 2 days later would say I've delivered them today instead due to the weather which is fair enough.

I had them delivered on there own so they are not in a pile with a load of others and were pretty basic saying boiler changes from £1100, I could also pick where I wanted within reason (avoid housing association properties etc as they don't pay for there boilers).

The one thing I will say though even the originals that never got me a lot still bring in the odd job and I see them up on people's notice boards 18 months later.
 
That's interesting Millay, thank you.
I'm trying to do a big varied amount of advertising to see a) what works best
B) drum it into people who I am, what I do and create a brand that is recognised.
 
How much would you pay to get a static billboard with the same area as your van? For : You own your van and its mobile and always outside your workplace. Against: you pay more for insurance and the vans worth less second hand, and you must keep it looking good.

I thought insurance companies like a sign written van and the premiums were lower than unmarked vans.
 
I thought insurance companies like a sign written van and the premiums were lower than unmarked vans.

They do. When I bought my new van I specifically asked about the impact of signwriting on premiums - they reduce by a small amount as A) the van is more easily identified so a little less appealing to vehicle thieves and B) they feel that you'll drive more sensibly if you're identifiable.

Signwriting may have the opposite impact on premiums for goods or tools in transit insurance, of course, but I always decline those...
 
I have had 3 leaflet drops 1 bad 1 good and 1 great.

I think a lot of it comes down to timing, the first when I set up didn't cover itself but advertising heating repairs etc in May/June when people don't think about it. September was good and almost quadrupled what it cost me. End of Jan though worked awesome and took over 10 times what it cost me.

All of those I had someone deliver them and found him to be great and reliable (ish) he did used to say I'm going out on such a day then 2 days later would say I've delivered them today instead due to the weather which is fair enough.

I had them delivered on there own so they are not in a pile with a load of others and were pretty basic saying boiler changes from £1100, I could also pick where I wanted within reason (avoid housing association properties etc as they don't pay for there boilers).

The one thing I will say though even the originals that never got me a lot still bring in the odd job and I see them up on people's notice boards 18 months later.

Similar experience. First drop, when I first went solo, I did myself. Delivered 2500 leaflets out of a print run of 10,000, brought in absolutely shed-loads of work. So much so that I didn't drop the rest as I was too busy.

Second drop, timing was bad, had literally 1 reply from supposed 10,000 dropped. However, I have very little confidence that the delivery company did actually drop them all. Just a feeling I get, as communication died completely once I'd paid (and they all want paying before doing the delivery!)

However, I do think well-timed, seasonal offers work very well as leaflet campaigns, as long as you have an eye-catching leaflet (I go for A4 glossy full-colour), and a strong call to action...
 
I've tried leaflets a couple of times totalling 2,500 leaflets. I dropped them myself covering a mixture of mid to high value housing. I didn't get a single response from either one.

I designed my own with a simple layout, and a solid call to action giving away a free gas service in return for liking a post on Facebook. I didn't get many likes.

I'll not be using leaflets again. Local magazines as mentioned are by far the best way to go. I pay £120 for a half page ad in a mag delivered to 17k home's and businesses in my postcode area every 8 weeks.
 
The key to all advertising is to measure the value of the response to the cost of the product. A simple question such as " where did you get my number from?" Dropped into the telephone conversation will get the answer. Also don't forget to quiz existing customers on how they came to you? Pop up and down the street when you start the job and either put a business card through the doors or design a postcard size advert stating you are working locally and give free estimates. Use simple offers like OAP discount or Guaranteed to beat British Gas or whatever is relevant. If you don't have a decent web site you could do worse than contact yellow pages who do a pretty fair product with add one to get you up the search engine lists. One word of caution; if you have a web site with email contact details MAKE SURE YOU ANSWER THE EMAILS!
 
Haven't done anything as I've got loads on and need to keep building a good reputation.. seems to take forever especially after the ACS
 

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