Looking for a good log burning stove

[gmartine]

Let's not scaremonger just because we have a vested interest, chimney fires are the biggest fire risk and that's down to a lack of maintenance NOT a poor installation which is why you can still DIY a stove install and get it signed off by BC.

 

[walterwhite]

Not scaremongering. Please get the facts right though. Bad maintenance is the most likely cause of a chimney fire but a bad installation CAN cause a chimney fire.

 

[SimonG]

Why would anybody want to diy a stove install? Pay a quality, experienced professional. Might seem cheaper to diy but probably not in the long run.

 

[Norcs]

People diy because its cheaper.
My Dad paid £300 for a stove and installed it himself where an open fire was previously.
That was about 8 years ago.

 

[joni os]

Experienced professional quoted daughter £1800 for flue liner install, not including closure plate, insulation or connection to stove. The quote was for 5" 316/316 and no attempt was made to explain options. The materials in the quote would have cost less than £120.
I installed 6" 904/904 fully insulated with cowl, closure plate and connection to stove at materials cost circa. £400. HETAS certs do not eliminate those content to work to minimum standards. Regulation is necessary, but current situation with recourse to BC is about right.
However, when I need a BC officer to supervise me sweeping my chimney things will have gone too far.

 

[Norcs]

That's the main reason I didn't use a hetas guy for my own stove install. He'd probably have insisted on a metal flue liner.
That will fail in a few years anyway. And the cost is prohibitive.
bc know nothing about it and that's the way it will stay.

 

[joni os]

A properly installed flue liner would probably improve performance especially if insulated. 904/904 is good for twenty years plus. It would certainly ease sweeping and general maintenance. Without liner, tar staining can appear through upstairs plaster. By all means DIY, but aim for a superior install with the money saved.

 

[Worcester]

I find it astonishing that you guys shutdown every thread and shut out everyone that enquires about their gas boiler - even heating controller questions that require lifting the lid and then brazenly boast about and promote solid fuel DIY installs.

Solid fuel is just as if not more dangerous than gas installations, use a professional (there are others than HETAS) and get competitive quotes from at least 2 ideally three people.

Typically a quality double skinned and insulated flue liner on a two storey property will cost between £900 - £1200 plus VAT to supply and install.

 

[joni os]

Not specifically promoting DIY, just promoting light touch regulation. All regulation bodies result in an additional cost to consumer, in effect an indirect tax. Motor manufacturers would like to with hold repair data, so we would all have to use main dealers. EU law forced them to make data available, at a cost, to independent garages. Not long ago only opticians could sell reading glasses. Regulation should be commensurate with the actual risk, not the theoretical .

 

[SimonG]

Shame people put a price on their safety.

 

[joni os]

Carbon monoxide detectors on new installs became mandatory October 2010. This was brought in by Building Regs. Not hetas. Prior to that many hetas engineers were content to install without even a recommendation regarding CO detectors. The risks were well known. We must all take responsibility for safety.

 

[walterwhite]

Charles Darwin. Natural selection.

 

[Lou]

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