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Unguided1 I can assure you as the operations manager of easy mcs that I have not forgot the running costs of a one man band as I was one until January this year. I set up Easy mcs along side my own installation business which was me and an apprentice. And left to concentrate on easy mcs in January this year. Easy mcs was created with good intrusions to simplify the process of creating the mcs which in your own words is a barrier for installers but I have certainly spent my time in your position and I hope the service easy mcs offers is value for money. But I can assure you we don't wright the standards or advise on them we just take down a barrier that may prevent other installers gaining mcs.Easy mcs is only here to help where needed and I fully understand the costs involved in gaining mcs as I did it for myself prior to joining. I hope this shows that we are not just a faceless organisation and I would apprecite the chance to meet with yourself so you can see for yourself that I personally will assist fellow heating engineers in any way I can around gaining mcs be that in free seminars or discussing barriers to present to the certification bodies to develop a solution that not only conforms with the regulation but works for all involved. If you would like to take me up on a meeting please pm your details and I will contact you to discuss further.

Hi EasyMCS
I would be more than willing to meet up, I am afraid as an Installer I am not as eloquant a campaigner as MickW and my reasons for refusing to join the MCS is physical cost, the rediculous QMS and the fact that it is further splintering our industry, and more importantly is the fact that it is my belief that customers are not being protected.
I appreciate the time you are offering in meeting me and I fully hope that you will not find it a waste of time.
 
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NoT sure to be honest, not really spoke in great length just had the qms sent and got on with it. Spoken to Simon (who without being rude seemed the most clued up) and last week Libby who was very helpful. Not sure what you mean by mentor feels like ive missed something now!! Will say would never of completed this without the qms. Afraid it's way above my business level. As I've said before I really like the enquiries, invoice, risk assessment, parts etc but the meetings etc for 1 man bands are ridiculous
 
I would just like to say good luck with tomorrow Eaton I hope it all goes well for you, I can honestly say that I fully respect you for the trial you are going through and as a one man band you deserve to pass
 
right another 4 hours crossing is and dotting ts and I cant do anymore, so roll on tommorrow, really must try and get a life back after this, ill let you all know tommorrow, if im not back by friday, ive jumped off the bridge with the assessors throat in my hands
 
righty where do I start,

Was not expecting that, what a piece of ****, seriously never had an easier day, lovely bloke, went through my qms with a fine tooth comb, total time spent on paperwork and site visit 4 hours, rset of time spoke about work and campervans, in his own words " youve absolutely nailed this"

just need my certificate from REAL and im done. Must say the easymcs qms helped me walk it, honestly cant believe how easy it was.
 
Well done mate, What was the site visit like? That's the bit that's holding me back.
 
bloody hell does it stop,

just spoke to Real and if I take depsoits need a 3rd party client bank account so if I go bust they can get their money back, anyone else do this? if they charge me for a bank account think ill drop the deposit idea
 
Unguided1 I can assure you as the operations manager of easy mcs that I have not forgot the running costs of a one man band as I was one until January this year. I set up Easy mcs along side my own installation business which was me and an apprentice. And left to concentrate on easy mcs in January this year. Easy mcs was created with good intrusions to simplify the process of creating the mcs which in your own words is a barrier for installers but I have certainly spent my time in your position and I hope the service easy mcs offers is value for money. But I can assure you we don't wright the standards or advise on them we just take down a barrier that may prevent other installers gaining mcs.Easy mcs is only here to help where needed and I fully understand the costs involved in gaining mcs as I did it for myself prior to joining. I hope this shows that we are not just a faceless organisation and I would apprecite the chance to meet with yourself so you can see for yourself that I personally will assist fellow heating engineers in any way I can around gaining mcs be that in free seminars or discussing barriers to present to the certification bodies to develop a solution that not only conforms with the regulation but works for all involved. If you would like to take me up on a meeting please pm your details and I will contact you to discuss further.

Well I PMd me details but I aint heard owt yet, was it something I said??
 
I dunno but I was invited and I didnt think I had missed that many calls, cos If I miss em I try and call back
Unguided1 I sent you and Mick Williams an e-mail and had further correspondence with Mick which you have been cc: in on. Please advise if you have not received as I would really value your opinion on the points I have raised to Mick on some of what I would suggest are fundamental issues with the campaign and how we can work together to simplify the QMS element without compromising the quality.
 
Unguided1 I sent you and Mick Williams an e-mail and had further correspondence with Mick which you have been cc: in on. Please advise if you have not received as I would really value your opinion on the points I have raised to Mick on some of what I would suggest are fundamental issues with the campaign and how we can work together to simplify the QMS element without compromising the quality.

I will PM my email again to yer I definatley aint recieved one unless it went into, the junk mail which I never lookat and just delet cheers for the fast response.
Regards
Mike
 
bloody hell does it stop,

just spoke to Real and if I take depsoits need a 3rd party client bank account so if I go bust they can get their money back, anyone else do this? if they charge me for a bank account think ill drop the deposit idea

Eaton - As i understand it you can use the saving or bmm account which sits along side your normal business account saving you from having to open a new account. i have included a link which talks about how you can use the cover its a bit complicated but basically if you win a job and take a deposit or advanced payment you inform the insurance company and they will apply cover against that payment in the event of you closing your business during the project.

i hope this helps and congratulations on passing your assessment, can i ask which member of our training team worked with you?

https://www.real.qanw.co.uk/login.php
 
didnt really have one specific person, spoke to simon and last of all libby,

im with santander and they basically dont wany to know, bloke siad go and talk to hsbc or natwest which I have but ill need to move all business their way, currently have a business account and a reserve account, could I use the reserve account for deposits? real seemed certain i need it in a 3rd part client account, whats this insurance is it the one real offer for free once youve joined?
 
didnt really have one specific person, spoke to simon and last of all libby, im with santander and they basically dont wany to know, bloke siad go and talk to hsbc or natwest which I have but ill need to move all business their way, currently have a business account and a reserve account, could I use the reserve account for deposits? real seemed certain i need it in a 3rd part client account, whats this insurance is it the one real offer for free once youve joined?
Hi Eaton,As I understand it you can use the reserve account for compliance with Real but it's worth discussing it with the insurance side as they ultimately call the shots with regard to the cover for advanced payments / deposits. I am back in the office on Wedneday if you would like me to have a look into this for you? Regards Simon.
 
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I to am looking down the route of MCS, this thread has been very helpful to see many different points of view, some of the posts I had never even thought about.Thanks too all who have contributed.Bob
 
Easymcs, any news regards bank accounts, my real certificate turned up earlier, just sent a copy to napit so should be ready to go
 

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