Need replacement tap cartridge PAINI ASME A112181UPC ANSI NSF61 KK GN90

[letzzep]

Hello,
I stripped a leaking monobloc tap, with the hope of obtaining a replacement cartridge, and found the following details stamped on the valve;-
PAINI ASME A112181UPC ANSI NSF61 KK GN90
The tap manufacturer is unknown.
The tap is a quarter turn
The overall length of the cartridge is 55mm
The dia of the base is 18.75mm
The thread is 1/2" BSP
The length of the shaft which goes into the handle is 19.5mm, (from the locking nut to the end)
The problem I am having when trying to obtain a replacement, is that all of the ones I've seen have a spline fitting on the end 7.6mm dia, whereas the original one has a 9mm dia smooth shaft.
The tap handle is locked onto the 9mm dia shaft with a grub screw. This handle also has a square receptacle, so a cartridge with a square end could also be used.

Does anyone know where I can obtain a replacement?
If I could find a cartridge with a 9mm dia spline I think it would be possible to use this?
Can anyone help please?
Many thanks

 

[JCplumb]

If you can't source the whole valve then best bet may be to try and only source the ceramic disks themselves, that's the bit that wears out.
Take it to a decent merchants and pop the rubber flange out and compare the ceramic parts to their stock.

 

[Chalked]

Have you tried here? Ceramic Disc Valves
If they don't do them, you can't get em

 

[letzzep]

If you can't source the whole valve then best bet may be to try and only source the ceramic disks themselves, that's the bit that wears out.
Take it to a decent merchants and pop the rubber flange out and compare the ceramic parts to their stock.

Ok, thanks, that's an option I could try

 

[Old Account]

Why not replacing the monobloc ?

 

[letzzep]

Have you tried here? Ceramic Disc Valves
If they don't do them, you can't get em

No I haven't tried them, but I will do, many thanks

 

[letzzep]

Why not replacing the monobloc ?

I may have to, but just thought it would be a cheaper option to repair as this is for a family member.

 

[Old Account]

You could ask, The Shower Doctor - Showers, Spares, Accessories & Advice

Send them the picture and dimension they mipay have something you need. They are pretty quick in responding.

By the way welcome to the forum

Kind regards
Ron

 

[Best]

I have never seen works like that, with the round part on the end of spindle. Are you sure that round part doesn't come off? What is on the top of spindle, - a bolt head?
I am just thinking it might be splines in below that round part.

 

[moonlight]

Have you tried this company, very helpful staff.

Tap Spares

hope you find what your looking for 🙂

 

[letzzep]

You could ask, The Shower Doctor - Showers, Spares, Accessories & Advice

Send them the picture and dimension they mipay have something you need. They are pretty quick in responding.

By the way welcome to the forum

Kind regards
Ron

Thanks for both the welcome & the information. I can certainly try them.
regards

 

[letzzep]

I have never seen works like that, with the round part on the end of spindle. Are you sure that round part doesn't come off? What is on the top of spindle, - a bolt head?
I am just thinking it might be splines in below that round part.

I must admit I didn't think to check that. There is a bolt head on the end. Next time I'm at the house I will check that. Many thanks

 

[letzzep]

Have you tried this company, very helpful staff.

Tap Spares

hope you find what your looking for 🙂

No I haven't tried them yet, but I will do. Thank you very much for the info

 

[JCplumb]

Looks like best was right, here's the bare cartridge.
Replacement ceramic disc tap cartridges fits PAINI ASME A112.18.1UPC ANSINSF61

 

[letzzep]

Looks like best was right, here's the bare cartridge.
Replacement ceramic disc tap cartridges fits PAINI ASME A112.18.1UPC ANSINSF61

Still haven't been back to the house with the faulty tap yet, but I will be following bests advice re the end piece, and many thanks to JC Plumb for taking the time to find this item for me.
Once again thanks
regards

 

[townfanjon]

Screwfix do some , very cheap and worth a go

 

[letzzep]

Screwfix do some , very cheap and worth a go

Had a look at Screwfix (one of my first ports of call for all sorts of stuff), but can't find a 55mm version. Many thanks for your help.
Regards

 

[letzzep]

I have never seen works like that, with the round part on the end of spindle. Are you sure that round part doesn't come off? What is on the top of spindle, - a bolt head?
I am just thinking it might be splines in below that round part.

I must admit I didn't think to check that. There is a bolt head on the end. Next time I'm at the house I will check that. Many thanks

After returning to the house today, I checked & you were absolutely right. The round part was actually an added sleeve, held on by the end screw, this sleeve contained female splines, and just slid off the male splines (7.6mm dia). What I assumed to be a washer was actually a flange on the end of this added sleeve! I can now obtain a 55mm replacement cartridge and re-use this sleeve to fit the existing taps.
Many thanks for your assistance (just goes to prove you should never assume anything until you've checked it).
Regards

 

[Best]

That's brilliant my thinking turned out correct.
Remember there are loads of different ceramic cartridges types and you need the round sleeve part to be a match for the number of splines it has. Screwfix cartridges are a bargain at under £6 for a pair, but they won't do every tap

 

[Welder]

Piani are in Thirsk in Yorkshire and very helpful. Typically their valves are 20 spline but heights vary. Their prices are very reasonable too. HTH

 

[Callsimon55]

If ir really is Piani........ change the tap.

 

[cygnet]

Hello,
I stripped a leaking monobloc tap, with the hope of obtaining a replacement cartridge, and found the following details stamped on the valve;-
PAINI ASME A112181UPC ANSI NSF61 KK GN90
The tap manufacturer is unknown.
The tap is a quarter turn
The overall length of the cartridge is 55mm
The dia of the base is 18.75mm
The thread is 1/2" BSP
The length of the shaft which goes into the handle is 19.5mm, (from the locking nut to the end)
The problem I am having when trying to obtain a replacement, is that all of the ones I've seen have a spline fitting on the end 7.6mm dia, whereas the original one has a 9mm dia smooth shaft.
The tap handle is locked onto the 9mm dia shaft with a grub screw. This handle also has a square receptacle, so a cartridge with a square end could also be used.View attachment 29773
Does anyone know where I can obtain a replacement?
If I could find a cartridge with a 9mm dia spline I think it would be possible to use this?
Can anyone help please?
Many thanks