New home woes with heating

[PhoenixServices]

Sean post a request in this part of the forum.
[DLMURL="http://www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk/im-looking-plumber-gas-engineer/"]I'm looking for a Plumber or Gas Engineer[/DLMURL]
More likely to get seen.

 

[rpm]

Don`t do heating but what strikes me is that the radiator in bed 2 is larger than the master bedroom and the largest radiators are in bathrooms?

 

[Sg1973]

The upstairs bathrooms are only towel rails so suspect the output is lower than conventional radiators. Also, bed 2 is larger than the master as it doesn't have the en suite.

 

[rpm]

My error, haven`t read the entire thread tbh.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

The upstairs bathrooms are only towel rails so suspect the output is lower than conventional radiators. Also, bed 2 is larger than the master as it doesn't have the en suite.

Doesn't matter as the rooms as the same size (nearly)

Master 4.7 x 3.8
Bed two 4.6 x 3.6

 

[stevetheplumber]

before getting someone in to size it you need to find out from the builder the u value for the type of construction theyve built with

 

[AWheating]

if the building has been build with very good u values then the rads many well only need to be very small.

Theres design and then theres building to said design. if you watched the recent programme on tv about new builds you would have seen a top 3 builders (size wise) house which cost 3/4 of a million have around 75% of its insulation missing. 🙁

 

[Sg1973]

Thanks. Given the problems I'm having in general it wouldn't surprise me at all that corners have been cut. So agree that it might have been designed to have a decent U value but not necessarily built to that design. The question is how I go about proving it...

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Thanks. Given the problems I'm having in general it wouldn't surprise me at all that corners have been cut. So agree that it might have been designed to have a decent U value but not necessarily built to that design. The question is how I go about proving it...

thermal imaging cam will be able to tell

home survey would be best

 

[clarky101]

If no joy from the house builder get the NHBC involved....you'll have a warranty on the house.....

 

[ShaunCorbs]

If no joy from the house builder get the NHBC involved....you'll have a warranty on the house.....

"It doesn't have NHBC but instead has Premier guarantee."

 

[Sg1973]

It's a good point nonetheless, to see if build quality in general is something they can assist with.

According to the builder, someone from premier guarantee will have assessed the work on the house.

Might give them a call.

 

[clarky101]

"It doesn't have NHBC but instead has Premier guarantee."

Missed that bit ....sorry...

 

[zzzjim]

Did like bit that house may be Drying out for Xmas , while many folk are trying the opposite.
Have a Merry Xmas .
( de-humidifier if badly plastered ?)

 

[Sg1973]

Meeting the builder's customer care team today. Will see what they say about everything.

 

[stevetheplumber]

last new builds i did from scratch i saw nhbc twice in 4 months

 

[Sg1973]

If you don't mind me asking, what were the issues?

 

[Sg1973]

I have now measured each room as accurately as I can and I've also done my own calcs for the cubic metres in each room in case this is useful. I also posted in the "looking for plumber" section to see if anyone would like to assist.

I attach photos of my internal drawings for reference and hope they're clear enough.




Please note that the internal doors aren't solid. External doors are solid with half glazed to the rear and three small rectangular glazed sections to the front (maybe 7"x5").

Flooring is concrete on soil, which they insulated before laying the concrete. Walls are brick with insulated cavity. Roof space has very thick insulation. Roof is tiled.

I'm in Pudsey just off Lumby Lane (LS28), so not particular exposed or high up at all.

My cubic metre calcs give the following. I have also listed for completness the current radiator sizes:

Ground floor

Hallway 13.9m3 rad size 500x600
Lounge 34.9m3 rad size 800x600
Study 13m3 rad size 600x500
W/C 5.9m3 rad size 400x400
Kitchen/dining/lounge at rear 60m3 rad sizes 600x600 K2 + 700x600 K1

Upstairs
Landing 8.9m3 rad size 400x600
Bathroom 12m3 rad size 1200x600 rail
Bed 1 26.4m3 rad size 700x450
Ensuite 8.4m3 rad size 1200x500 rail
Bed 2 35.3 m3 rad size 900x450
Bed 3 22.2m3 rad size 600x450
Bed 4 16.3m3 rad size 600x450

I have been informed that senior management and a heating engineer will be visiting my house in the near future, so it sounds like they are taking things a bit more seriously now although getting an independent view of things would be helpful.

I also spoke with my neighbour who has the same spec of house and she's said that her front lounge doesn't get very warm either.

Sean

 

[newcastle phill]

Have you got an independant surveyor out yet.
Instead of asking dozens of anon faceless people who could have any level of knowledge or lack of giving an opinion - why dont you do the obvious thing ?

 

[Sg1973]

Thanks Phill. I have done what was recommended on here, to post on the plumber required section to see if anyone is interested in this. I assumed, perhaps wrongly, that a professional might respond to offer their services.

I could of course hire an independent surveyor, although finding a reputable one is why I posted on here in the first place, to see if anyone has any recommendations etc (which then led to my post in the other section).

If you've any recommendations in the Leeds area, feel free to share them with me.