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Nightmare customer - advice please

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Section 5b is particularly amusing. I took it with me after a left Gasforce. They will have had it written by lawyers, I made a few adjustments. It's printed on the back of this which they sign:

Acceptance:
Mr & Mrs Smith
36 High Street
Town

12th January 2013

Quotation:
Supply and install:
One Worcester Greenstar 15Ri gas condensing boiler in garage.
Removal and disposal of existing boiler.
All associated pipework, wiring and installation.
Chemically flushing and treating of heating system.
Total: £2000.00

If you wish to proceed please sign below and return. A 50% deposit for £1000.00 will be required either transferred to the account below or by cheque with this acceptance.
Final payment due on day of completion.

I agree to the above quotation and terms and conditions (printed on the rear).

Signed_______________________

Print_________________________

Date_________________________
 
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Section 5b is particularly amusing. I took it with me after a left Gasforce. They will have had it written by lawyers, I made a few adjustments. It's printed on the back of this which they sign:

Acceptance:
Mr & Mrs Smith
36 High Street
Town

12th January 2013

Quotation:
Supply and install:
One Worcester Greenstar 15Ri gas condensing boiler in garage.
Removal and disposal of existing boiler.
All associated pipework, wiring and installation.
Chemically flushing and treating of heating system.
Total: £2000.00

If you wish to proceed please sign below and return. A 50% deposit for £1000.00 will be required either transferred to the account below or by cheque with this acceptance.
Final payment due on day of completion.

I agree to the above quotation and terms and conditions (printed on the rear).

Signed_______________________

Print_________________________

Date_________________________

I would appreciate a copy as well, if you wouldn't mind
 
I think if the roles were reversed I'd run a mile if a tradesman gave me that to sign, I can see why you're doing it though.
 
I was a bit confused about how safety shoes are going to save a life?

Save a toe maybe, but a life?
 
I was a bit confused about how safety shoes are going to save a life?

Save a toe maybe, but a life?

By preventing electrocution. You are all very welcome a proper copy but the forum only seems to let me upload images. I need a way to send a word document. The only way I can think is if you private message me your email addresses?
 
I think if the roles were reversed I'd run a mile if a tradesman gave me that to sign, I can see why you're doing it though.

In reality customers are thick and lazy and don't read it, they just sign it and assume it like any other contract. It it puts control in your hands and has made my life so much easier.
 
If this lady is saying it took ages for the floor to dry and the wall is still wet, has anyone been back to make sure there isn't actually another leak under the floor/floorboards?
 
I haven't read alb's T&C
but I can tell you that we have some that we send with every quote.
They sound similar.

From memory:
Deposit.
Stage payments for big job.
Payment in full on day of completion.
Admin fees for late payment.
How they can make a complaint and what we will do about it.
That deposits are non refundable.
That we are not responsible for their items that are left where we are working.
That we will not move their furniture.
And this does not affect your statutory rights.


IMHO they should be easy to read and easy to understand in big print and just contain essential info that can help prevent disputes in future.
 
Why don't you contact her a tell her you are going to put the repairs through your insurance.

Depending on what caused the leak
- Faulty valve ( valve manufacturer / supplier insurance )
- Faulty workmanship - your insurance.

Charge for all the extra time and effort you put in, inc. after hours fees and vacuum / dehumidifier.

Do a final invoice for all the works performed and bring an insurance form.
Let her know that when you receive payment in full you will send the claim form off to your insurance company.

Then she can deal with the insurance company and the insurance company can deal with the situation however they like.
You may have to pay an excess if its your fault, but if it a valve fault, then you won't have to pay anything.

Once that's done - put it all behind you and move on.

That's how I would deal with the situation - particularly with this type of customer.

Things like this are going to happen from time to time and you just have to work out how to deal with this type of situation.

Oz-Plumber
 
I've never been so popular! I shall have to start charging a pound for my terms and conditions and retire from fitting boilers!
 
Speak to your insurance company and let them know you suspect she may be about to make a claim which you suspect is fraudulent. If they think they are going to get a claim they will investigate.
 
Speak to your insurance company and let them know you suspect she may be about to make a claim which you suspect is fraudulent. If they think they are going to get a claim they will investigate.


I would advise against this.

Let the insurance company handle all the claims and determine who's at fault.

There's no point in getting overly involved in the insurance side of things. Most insurance assesors can determine what is covered by the leak and what is not. They can also determine who is at fault.
They deal with people who try and claim more that they are entitled to all the time.

Get your money and your equipment and be done with the situation and the customer.

The customer doesn't like you - you don't like the customer

Leave it at that - put it down to a learning experience

Worst case scenario is that you will have to pay your excess on your insurance policy.

Oz-Plumber
 
View attachment 16735

Section 5b is particularly amusing. I took it with me after a left Gasforce. They will have had it written by lawyers, I made a few adjustments. It's printed on the back of this which they sign:

Acceptance:
Mr & Mrs Smith
36 High Street
Town

12th January 2013

Quotation:
Supply and install:
One Worcester Greenstar 15Ri gas condensing boiler in garage.
Removal and disposal of existing boiler.
All associated pipework, wiring and installation.
Chemically flushing and treating of heating system.
Total: £2000.00

If you wish to proceed please sign below and return. A 50% deposit for £1000.00 will be required either transferred to the account below or by cheque with this acceptance.
Final payment due on day of completion.

I agree to the above quotation and terms and conditions (printed on the rear).

Signed_______________________

Print_________________________

Date_________________________

saved! ^^
 

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