No hot water when heating is on.

[jonpeck]

The problem is when the gas central heating is on I get very little hot water out the shower. When the heating is off there is plenty of hot water.

I have set the thermostat to have the hot water come on a hour first to the heating a vi've versa.

It's a potterton superprima and mixer gravity Fed shower.

Thanks in advance.

 

[kay-jay]

Sounds like an old C plan and not S plan!! Er guess!

C plan still can run hw and ch together. Any more straws you wish to clutch at?

 

[spanner]

Nah..lol

 

[spanner]

C plan still can run hw and ch together. Any more straws you wish to clutch at?

But being a nice fella I'll let him have the longest straw,

 

[happyflyer]

Lads right spanner

 

[Killy Bing]

C plan still can run hw and ch together. Any more straws you wish to clutch at?

Could be a w plan set to heating priority?

 

[kay-jay]

Could be a w plan set to heating priority?

A w plan prioritises hw iirc

 

[Killy Bing]

A w plan prioritises hw iirc

W plan can be used for priority for either 🙂
Depending on application.
just a case of how you wire it up.

Ive seen it used in a b and b to to heat bedrooms before comunal areas while hot water is on its own two port.

 

[happyflyer]

W plan can be used for priority for either 🙂
Depending on application.
just a case of how you wire it up.

Ive seen it used in a b and b to to heat bedrooms before comunal areas while hot water is on its own two port.

The wonders of modern science, where will it all end .

 

[jam1979]

thats the diagramme in working off at college next week did an s plan last nite and doing a y plan next week as well

 

[jam1979]

Wtf you on about?

ahaha go on kev

 

[spanner]

ahaha go on kev

Haa.. greet..

 

[spanner]

thats the diagramme in working off at college next week did an s plan last nite and doing a y plan next week as well

Boiler flow to A and B A=hot water B=radiator Wires grey=hot water White=radiators.. ne knew you were studying for plumbers..

 

[jtsplumbing]

Boiler flow to A and B A=hot water B=radiator Wires grey=hot water White=radiators.. ne knew you were studying for plumbers..

You have the A & B the wrong way , B to hot water, easy to remember B = Bath.

 

[jonpeck]

Jon,

to get a spot on answer to your question these guys here need a lot more information from you, like this.

1) do you have a hot water cylinder, I take you have with this comment " I have set the thermostat to have the hot water come on a hour first to the heating a vi've versa"
2) do you mean the flow of hot water to the shower is bad or the temperature is low
3) has this just happened or as it always been like this since you moved in
4) If you run the kitchen tap and the heating is on is the water temp low then

I will think of some more in a minute my head hurts just now! Answer these first

Tony

1-Yes I have a hot water cylinder. I have a thermostat and have fiddled the setting to have the hot water to come on first then the heating And vice versa.

2-The flow of water is fine when only the water is on. And the heating is off

3-I been like this since we have move in but I was away for the last few months.

4-The temperature from the tap is fine.


Also its a gravity fed shower with water tanks in the roof.

 

[jonpeck]

I have also rang my landlord. Just to make you guys happy!

Its mainly so I have at least a starting point to maybe getting it fixed. Should just act daft and waste his time.

 

[jtsplumbing]

1-Yes I have a hot water cylinder. I have a thermostat and have fiddled the setting to have the hot water to come on first then the heating And vice versa.

2-The flow of water is fine when only the water is on. And the heating is off

3-I been like this since we have move in but I was away for the last few months.

4-The temperature from the tap is fine.


Also its a gravity fed shower with water tanks in the roof.[/QUOTE
Is this the problem, that you are messing with the thermostat ? or do you mean the time control (programmer) if water from taps is OK then fault is with shower, may find that cold water to shower is connected to mains water and not to tank in loft, have you got a separate shower or one that is connected to bath taps ?

 

[happyflyer]

Jon,

can you elaborate on this line, I am confused



2-The flow of water is fine when only the water is on. And the heating is off


If the cylinder is full of hot water you should get hot water at the taps in the kitchen and the bathroom, now what is wrong with that shower, look tell me this, if you run the wash basin tap which is next to the shower, boiler on or off cylinder full of hot water what do you get out of the WB tap, if the water is hot and the shower isn't they are next to each other, it must be the shower valve.thermostat hey, is that possible, tell us step by step.

 

[spanner]

You have the A & B the wrong way , B to hot water, easy to remember B = Bath.

Thanks.. love yiooooo...:biggrinjester:

 

[spanner]

Nope.
Gravity hot water means seperate unpumped supply from boiler to cylinder coil. On this system his hot water cylinder would heat up regardless of the heating being on.

He is therefore likely to be on an s or a y plan with two pipe boiler. As already suggested from the description given its likely to be a balancing issue. Hot water only means heating valve shut and circuit pumps through the coil and gives piping hot water. With demand for both the water takes the path of least resistance which is through the heating circuit to the detriment if the coil.

Brilliantly explained perfected

 

[jonpeck]

Okay.

Just quick simple as I can get explanation.

Hot water on heating on lukewarm shower
Hot water on heating off hot shower
Hot water off heating on cold

When I have the first option the taps are hot.

Today I had just the water on option 2 and didn't get as warm as usual which may point to the shower thermostat as it has to be at 75% to get to just warm. So the help is appreciated guys.

 

[kay-jay]

Okay.

Just quick simple as I can get explanation.

Hot water on heating on lukewarm shower
Hot water on heating off hot shower
Hot water off heating on cold

When I have the first option the taps are hot.

Today I had just the water on option 2 and didn't get as warm as usual which may point to the shower thermostat as it has to be at 75% to get to just warm. So the help is appreciated guys.

Easiest way to tell if its the shower is to wait till the shower is only luke warm and check hw at the taps. If its hot at the taps and only warm at the shower the fault lies with the shower or with the pipe arrangement to the shower.

 

[happyflyer]

Easiest way to tell if its the shower is to wait till the shower is only luke warm and check hw at the taps. If its hot at the taps and only warm at the shower the fault lies with the shower or with the pipe arrangement to the shower.

Kay isn't that what I said 10 posts back, absolutely, hot water you can burn your hand under at sink and wash basin and only luke warm at shower, this is a no-brainer, in broad Bolton or Oldham,
this is like pulling hens teeth, I am off to the day job now, perhaps this will be resolved when I get home, but I am not holding my breath.

 

[spanner]

Kay isn't that what I said 10 posts back, absolutely, hot water you can burn your hand under at sink and wash basin and only luke warm at shower, this is a no-brainer, in broad Bolton or Oldham,
this is like pulling hens teeth, I am off to the day job now, perhaps this will be resolved when I get home, but I am not holding my breath.

Cool down.. you are getting there

 

[spanner]

Kay isn't that what I said 10 posts back, absolutely, hot water you can burn your hand under at sink and wash basin and only luke warm at shower, this is a no-brainer, in broad Bolton or Oldham,
this is like pulling hens teeth, I am off to the day job now, perhaps this will be resolved when I get home, but I am not holding my breath.

Cool down.. you are getting there Grrrreat

 

[kay-jay]

Kay isn't that what I said 10 posts back, absolutely, hot water you can burn your hand under at sink and wash basin and only luke warm at shower, this is a no-brainer, in broad Bolton or Oldham,
this is like pulling hens teeth, I am off to the day job now, perhaps this will be resolved when I get home, but I am not holding my breath.

yes i recall you mentioning it in a previous post.
i dont however recall the op telling us about it so i reposted the info for his benefit in case he missed it first time around