A couple of years ago, my mother moved house and paid an RGI to move her existing ca. 1981 Solaire New World cooker into her new house (there was already a gas connexion and cooker point). Seeing as this cooker seems likely to outlive my MUCH newer cooker, I can't say I blame her.
Now she is looking at renting out her house, she is being told by the same RGI that while he's happy that the cooker is safe and okay, he's not happy giving it a Landlord's certificate. This, to me, makes no sense at all, but the old dear 'hasn't got round' to asking him why 🙁
It's not a big problem - she'll buy another cooker (but she's offered me her old one and I'm slightly keen). What I'm trying to work out is what corners her RGI has cut, if any...
Some guesses are as follows:
1. That moving a cooker into a different building counts as a "new" install and that therefore the cooker should not, strictly speaking, have been installed if it was not up to current standards. Given that the RGI knows the cooker has been moved, he cannot pass it on a certificate.
2. Something to do with the clearances to wall-hung shelves above the cooker - simple and easy solution would be to remove the shelves from the wall. God only knows why he said nothing at the time.
3. (Not my idea). That the fact that the hobs do not have flame-failure devices, and the oven does not have a flame failure device in the modern sense (it knocks the oven gas down to a minimum if the thermocouple senses cold, but won't turn the gas off entirely - this is the original design, not a fault), means that while the cooker is not faulty, it does not meet stricter requirements for letting. This idea sounds like rubbish to me, because the house is not a flat or HMO and so my understanding is the gas installation is either "safe" (i.e it can be certified as safe) or it isn't (i.e. it is ID or AR). Had a look on Gas Safe website, but found nothing to support this view.
4. The cooker is faulty, but it is 'relatively' safe, so the RGI turned a blind eye to it until he had to put his name to its safety :S
5. (My mother's idea) That the cooker is old and therefore could develop a fault during the course of a year (like any car going in for MOT, I pointed out).
Any ideas would be received with gratitude? I'm trying to work out what her RGI is playing at (particularly as I need a gas run replacing at my own house and am starting to be put off this guy).
Now she is looking at renting out her house, she is being told by the same RGI that while he's happy that the cooker is safe and okay, he's not happy giving it a Landlord's certificate. This, to me, makes no sense at all, but the old dear 'hasn't got round' to asking him why 🙁
It's not a big problem - she'll buy another cooker (but she's offered me her old one and I'm slightly keen). What I'm trying to work out is what corners her RGI has cut, if any...
Some guesses are as follows:
1. That moving a cooker into a different building counts as a "new" install and that therefore the cooker should not, strictly speaking, have been installed if it was not up to current standards. Given that the RGI knows the cooker has been moved, he cannot pass it on a certificate.
2. Something to do with the clearances to wall-hung shelves above the cooker - simple and easy solution would be to remove the shelves from the wall. God only knows why he said nothing at the time.
3. (Not my idea). That the fact that the hobs do not have flame-failure devices, and the oven does not have a flame failure device in the modern sense (it knocks the oven gas down to a minimum if the thermocouple senses cold, but won't turn the gas off entirely - this is the original design, not a fault), means that while the cooker is not faulty, it does not meet stricter requirements for letting. This idea sounds like rubbish to me, because the house is not a flat or HMO and so my understanding is the gas installation is either "safe" (i.e it can be certified as safe) or it isn't (i.e. it is ID or AR). Had a look on Gas Safe website, but found nothing to support this view.
4. The cooker is faulty, but it is 'relatively' safe, so the RGI turned a blind eye to it until he had to put his name to its safety :S
5. (My mother's idea) That the cooker is old and therefore could develop a fault during the course of a year (like any car going in for MOT, I pointed out).
Any ideas would be received with gratitude? I'm trying to work out what her RGI is playing at (particularly as I need a gas run replacing at my own house and am starting to be put off this guy).
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