Pi55 take or what!.........do people actually work for these rates?

[Toxic Ted]

Dear Engineer,

Firstly, I hope you do not mind us contacting you in this manner.

We are a specialist Gas agency based in Aylesbury , UK . We cover nationwide and are currently recruiting in your area for some long term servicing workdue to last until April 2014 with a possibility of extension & would like to know if you would possibly be interested in this work.

I have put a few basic details about the job, if you feel this may be something that interests you we would be happy to discuss in greater detail.

Orion Electrotech are seeking experienced self employed service engineers, to cover an ongoing contract on behalf of a leading supplier for private customers. 8-10 services will be booked in daily with a possibility of requesting more should you find you have the time! There will be an opportunity to take on breakdowns in the peak winter time should this be of interest to you. Rates for breakdowns will be confirmed upon application.

Servicing pay: -

ü £18/boiler
ü £9/fire
ü £6.75 any other appliance
ü +Monthly Bonuses

This is an exciting opportunity that can not only offer you longevity of work, but also consistency.

 

[tamz]

Some do but usually not for long which is why they struggle to get guys to work for them. You can imagine the quality of the trainers needed to run around the houses.

 

[TimeServed]

I have literally just received the same email and thought exactly the same, infact I didn't even bother working out what you could potentially earn in a day.....

 

[Reg Man]

Yawn Yawn Yawn Your having a laugh.

 

[Toxic Ted]

So what do you think the desk drivers are putting on that ?

 

[tamz]

Probably not as much as you think. They will have priced it low to win the work. Probably HA stuff.

 

[lame plumber]

saw a work note from dyno rod today, they had turned out to look at a dripping tap, not an emergency leak as not leaking 🙂 to replace unrepairable taps! £90 plus vat plus parts, note to self, review pricing structure asap 🙂

 

[Dotty]

Shifted this thread off the public forum because of the title.

 

[TFGplumbing]

Good god I could barely buy a packet of smokes for the service price on the gas fire. Guessing this is one of those ''dont call me because i wont call you either ones''

 

[Richie_77]

Dear Engineer,

Firstly, I hope you do not mind us contacting you in this manner.

We are a specialist Gas agency based in Aylesbury , UK . We cover nationwide and are currently recruiting in your area for some long term servicing workdue to last until April 2014 with a possibility of extension & would like to know if you would possibly be interested in this work.

I have put a few basic details about the job, if you feel this may be something that interests you we would be happy to discuss in greater detail.

Orion Electrotech are seeking experienced self employed service engineers, to cover an ongoing contract on behalf of a leading supplier for private customers. 8-10 services will be booked in daily with a possibility of requesting more should you find you have the time! There will be an opportunity to take on breakdowns in the peak winter time should this be of interest to you. Rates for breakdowns will be confirmed upon application.

Servicing pay: -

ü£18/boiler
ü£9/fire
ü£6.75 any other appliance
ü+Monthly Bonuses

This is an exciting opportunity that can not only offer you longevity of work, but also consistency.

Email them back tell em your interested let them line up a load of work then on the morning your due to start tell you've had a better job offer selling the big issue
I like having fun with these people ppi companies and no win no fee crooks are the best.
I usually ad-lib a ludicrous story then tell them to talk to my PA on 07767 113738 which is another ppi company.
Unfortunately they've stopped calling me :-(

 

[hammers4spanner]

Loads of engineers work for that around my way but thats what happens when every other person is gsr ,unfortunately its the rates where i live

 

[JamesyGoosey1]

Went to see a firm about some contracting work for the green deal government scheme £120 quid for combi combi swaps they are paying.

 

[Toxic Ted]

Shifted this thread off the public forum because of the title.

Sorry John......meant to put it on the privete gsr

 

[buckley plumb]

you could never remove and re fit and test a fire for that price

 

[tamz]

Anyone who is doing work for this price is off their heads. They must be cutting corners to do them and are also taking all the responsibility. Should anything happen it is their name on the paperwork and the main contractor will wash their hands of it.

 

[aligorgon]

Went to see a firm about some contracting work for the green deal government scheme £120 quid for combi combi swaps they are paying.

I think these ones you just supply labour they sort materials, access etc

Other firms are paying 275-325 per boiler but you need to organise access, supply and pay materials up front they just supply boiler and flue.

 

[aligorgon]

£9 for a fire lol..

I hate doing dfe fires. They can pass every test but i still have a niggle in the back of my head. Always try to persuade cust to get CO detector in room.

Do they listen???

 

[bewsh]

One of my mates does sub-contracting to npower and he gets £16 a job whether it's boiler service or breakdown. He doesn't do fires and other appliances. But he's got it pretty easy, usually all the jobs are in the same street and the vast majority of them are brand new ecotec pros so don't take long to service.

But when he does on call, he could be travelling miles and miles between each job as there's only one engineer coving the whole of s.wales!

 

[deandive]

I do a whole house be that just a combi boiler, or a bbu, fire front, cooker and dfe in the same house for £20, you win some you lose some type affair for a HA. I get allocated 10 a day, normally in the same area and get access to six or seven normally. Its not great money but its regular and I can usually fit in some private work somewhere to top up the money. Im not experienced enough or rich enough lol to turn down regular work, but I dont think id bother for £16

 

[lame plumber]

£75 boiler service, £65 llc for a boiler other appliances extra! why dont people see their worth and charge sensible rates. could you get your car serviced of £20??? its time people saw sense

 

[deandive]

£75 boiler service, £65 llc for a boiler other appliances extra! why dont people see their worth and charge sensible rates. could you get your car serviced of £20??? its time people saw sense

thats more like what i charge a private customer, when a HA are giving you 60 jobs a week they get to set the price.

 

[Leo21]

That is so wrong, the company knows its not feesable. So to my mind are guilty in some way for the results.

 

[lame plumber]

if everyone refused to work for stupid money for ha groups then they would also have to pay the going rate the private person does but with a reasonable discount. 60 at stupid money means you work like a bluued assed fly for a grand or so that you can earn for 10 private jobs and saving on fuel and damage to the van and still have time for a profitable boiler change or three. one day the lights will come on. why do people pay to learn a trade and pay to carry on being able to do their chosen trade and accept poor returns for doing their chosen role.

 

[deandive]

I agree with what you are saying lame plumber, the trouble is I dont think id get 10 private jobs a week without resorting to rated people or such like, and I really cant be doing with that. Im not keen on being a busy fool, but tbh Im on pretty reasonable money for HA ive heard of blokes doing them for as little as £12!!!

 

[lame plumber]

£12 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh is it any wonder the housing associations take the mick. if you start to look at what it costs you to set up and run your business surely you cant cover your fixed costs for what your bringing back in and having something to feed the kids. I think Mrs TP said all earlier or in another post of this ilk. Why does every one even consider rated people or the like, just find some local parish mags and advertising monthlies and rely on them for new work, build a customer base and bin the vultures until they see sense. deep breathe and rant over 🙂 just remember your worth so much more than 18 notes a service

 

[deandive]

🙂 just remember your worth so much more than 18 notes a service

awww never knew you cared lol

 

[lame plumber]

if you work cheap you wont work long. Funnily enough if too many dont charge decent rates it affects the whole industry in the end and thats not funny

 

[Leo21]

Ideally we'd all stick together and charge decent rates. But in reality there are guys who need to feed family's and there always will be.

 

[northcarr]

I have seen the same complany offering 120 lol they will even want us to supply the combi lol

 

[Derek Hardman]

If some guys dont have enough work to support the family, then something is wrong, you should start to build up a customer base before going self employed imho, if you dont, you are going to be working for scraps, the grass on the other side only looks greener, when you get your ticket, stay with the guy who helped you get it to build up experience and build up some custom in spare time, if you have to work for peanuts and then work longer hours/more days because of it, you are actually doing more harm to your family, because you dont have sufficient time with them and are likely regularly stressed out and they will feel the impact of that, sorry if that sounds a bit harsh to some, but if more took notice of this kind of advice there would be far less going out of business or going bankrupt, I have lost count of the amount of 'ex' traders in my area.

 

[lame plumber]

:iagree:

 

[downthesouth]

I think if this is what the industry is starting to do, a race to the bottom, then were are all fooked. The writing is well and truly on the wall. I may do what everyone else does in my area and find a bird whom wants lots of kids, fain a back injury or something and live of the state.

 

[JamesyGoosey1]

Been to an induction today for a serviceing contract for federal houseing association through an agency they are paying 17 pound per property no matter how many appliances are in, the arse is dropping out of this game!!

 

[lame plumber]

someones copping the money just not the guys doing the work. just id everything and walk away, theyll get the picture soon enough.

 

[stevetheplumber]

health and safety should get on top of this sort of thing housing associations shouldnt be allowed to sub work out they should be forced to have there own gas safe registration and directly employ their work force as all they are doing is abdicating their responsibilities by allowing the work to be subbed down to the man on the shop floor but then that is all health and safety is about, keeping the blame as low down the food chain as possible
half the blokes doing this work are realy employees working for one company full time to negate the laws they are employed via agencies and paid via another company

 

[Leo21]

Spot on Steve. Spot on.

 

[julesverne]

If your self employed your a business man/woman. as a business man/woman your job is too make money so if your not making money LEARN it is just as important a skill as being whatever chosen trade you are in.

Some have a gift for it others dont but it can be LEARNT ( you learnt to be a plumber you can do it).

there are plenty of courses around to do it and it doesnt cost the earth and it aint rocket science although plumbing/gas isnt far off being rocket science.

you have to believe in yourself know your worth and dont give in. its hard but it can be done.
you can be the best plumber/gas engineer in the world but if you come across to a customer as a bell end/arrogant/condescending doesnt matter matter how good you are you wont be asked back for the next issue
so learn the art of customer service that aint rocket science either.

got my GSR REG in Aug2010 next wednesday i sign the lease for my new showroom it can be done you just have to believe in yourself. good paying work is out there.

ok rant over back to Guiness

 

[Derek Hardman]

I used to bend over backwards for customers, work too cheaply, and found myself working all hours, 7 days and never seemed to have any money about, it is a well known fact that if you increase your prices by 10%, you might lose a small percentage of your clientele, I did as advised and found i work less hours for more money, AND, several of the customers who objected and left, came back over a short time as well, honestly lads and lasses, there is no good in working for nothing, know your worth, and charge your worth, it may take longer to build a customer base, but your regulars will then be quality customers, who want quality work, and pay you decent money. I know from experience this to be true.

 

[lame plumber]

I used to bend over backwards for customers, work too cheaply, and found myself working all hours, 7 days and never seemed to have any money about, it is a well known fact that if you increase your prices by 10%, you might lose a small percentage of your clientele, I did as advised and found i work less hours for more money, AND, several of the customers who objected and left, came back over a short time as well, honestly lads and lasses, there is no good in working for nothing, know your worth, and charge your worth, it may take longer to build a customer base, but your regulars will then be quality customers, who want quality work, and pay you decent money. I know from experience this to be true.

see folks others agree and despite a minority of posters accusing me Im not spouting bs

 

[Leo21]

I'm with both of you.