Plastic pipe in walls

[martyd485]

Hi All,
I have had a conservatory buuilt with a radiator installed. The plumber installed plastic pipe behind the plasterboard. Are there any regulations that he should have adhered too, ie how do you find a plastic pipe in a wall once installed?

 

[Whl4852]

You could of put metallic tape behind it to aid detection, but a pretty educated guess could tell you where it it. Hope this helps

 

[MrMeek]

basically its fine, but most plumbers prefer copper but hes a builder so says it all.

 

[ne1ls0n]

why do you need to find where it goes?

 

[Carl86]

why do you need to find where it goes?

If you drill in to the wall to put something up.... shelves, coat hooks or rails as examples. The metalic strip will highlight its presance to a detector with it not being copper or another type of metal based pipe.

 

[Koogatubac]

When i used plastic down walls, they were supported i.e. clipped and had aluminium tape behind/in front of them. However if its a builder, its been lashed in. Expect reprocushions!

 

[REDSAW]

very common to find the same all over

 

[Carl86]

In any case pipes should always be adequately clipped, the insulation requirements are the same as copper and must comply with BS6700 and BS5422 and the likes of Hep and john guest stipulate any metallic tape with an adhesive must not be placed on the pipe work or fittings directly. Care, planning and consideration must also be taken in regards rodents and the damage they can cause to plastic pipe work, they can chew through the stuff like its a hearty meal, copper is more resilient.

 

[snowhead]

Hi All,
I have had a conservatory buuilt with a radiator installed. The plumber installed plastic pipe behind the plasterboard. Are there any regulations that he should have adhered too, ie how do you find a plastic pipe in a wall once installed?

Finding it is easy with a drill.
Not finding it is what you want to do.

 

[AWheating]

there should not be a radiator in a conservatory so if the builder wanted to follow the regs he would not have fitted it LOL

normally you stick silver foil tape on the brickwork and then nail clip your plastic pipe to it. If your unsure ask the builder where its run. normally you would run pipework in an s shape or l shape if under a window if that helps at all.

 

[pipeline]

there should not be a radiator in a conservatory so if the builder wanted to follow the regs he would not have fitted it LOL

normally you stick silver foil tape on the brickwork and then nail clip your plastic pipe to it. If your unsure ask the builder where its run. normally you would run pipework in an s shape or l shape if under a window if that helps at all.

just out of interest why shouldnt a rad be fitted in a conservatory. Thanks merry christmas

 

[AWheating]

Because its a temp structure and does not form part of the living space/ heating zone. If you remove the doors between it and the house then it becomes part of the house and can be heated, but doing this means you need planning approval if done correctly. Thats how its been explained to me anyway.

 

[markfxy]

Thought you could fit a rad as long as there's a means of isolation

 

[kay-jay]

Because its a temp structure and does not form part of the living space/ heating zone. If you remove the doors between it and the house then it becomes part of the house and can be heated, but doing this means you need planning approval if done correctly. Thats how its been explained to me anyway.

I was told the same, do you know how this applies to hot and cold water services as my mate is applying to building control to run a bakery from a non detached garage? No need for heating but he needs hot and cold running water. Can these be run from the house or does he need a separate cold feed to the garage from the external Toby and a separate means of heating the water within the garage???

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[gavinwilson]

definately not for cold water but he`d need planning permission anyway for change of use,surely?

 

[tom609]

news to me, not saying its wrong mind

 

[AWheating]

Thought you could fit a rad as long as there's a means of isolation

not heard that to be honest, it was explained to me by a building control person who said not unless its part of the property/living space.

 

[AWheating]

I was told the same, do you know how this applies to hot and cold water services as my mate is applying to building control to run a bakery from a non detached garage? No need for heating but he needs hot and cold running water. Can these be run from the house or does he need a separate cold feed to the garage from the external Toby and a separate means of heating the water within the garage???

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well you can run external pipework to outside taps etc.... so its done to a certain capacity. But dont know about a workplace, would possibly need a meter etc....?

 

[TBServices]

Last time i did this (rest of system was 10mm hep) I just covered in foil tape. Should be fine.

 

[martyd485]

why do you need to find where it goes?

I don't particularly need to find it. However, as they have done a particularly crap job on the undertile heating I wanted to know whether the pipes to the radiator have been installed correctly.

 

[Koogatubac]

Should of got a plumber to do the plumbing than a builder that supposably can do various of trades at the same level...