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Barry98
Yeah but we're in now stan lol
At the end of the day you cant force them to have it, we all know what best practice says, but we all don't do it, we need to earn a living, why should some faceless pen pusher dictate what people should have in there own homes, You either follow the rules to the letter and earn nothing because you will be undercut on your price, or you bend the rules and earn a living, as long as it safe and it's what the customer wants and can afford , may be different in the larger city's, but in this part of the uk money is tight .
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Barry98
You don't want trvs , sign here
you don't want a thermostat , sign here
etc etc
you don't want a thermostat , sign here
etc etc
i just note it on benchmark
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Marty92
Wrong choice of words but I'm not bothered if they have it or not I'm certainly not going to force them to have it.
My main point I suppose was 3 other qualified plumbers (assumption) had told them that They MUST also have a replacement cylinder, and in truth I didn't (and still don't) know if that is a factually accurate statement or if they are simply applying what they rightly or wrongly believe to be best practice.
I must stress again this is not domestic. Though I'm not sure that changes the requirements on replacing old cylinders due to consequential improvements.
My main point I suppose was 3 other qualified plumbers (assumption) had told them that They MUST also have a replacement cylinder, and in truth I didn't (and still don't) know if that is a factually accurate statement or if they are simply applying what they rightly or wrongly believe to be best practice.
I must stress again this is not domestic. Though I'm not sure that changes the requirements on replacing old cylinders due to consequential improvements.
just possibly trying it on and getting more out of it
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phil the bucket
building regs state that if u replace boiler or cylinder it must be changed to fully pumped sealed system with cylinder stat and room stat .
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phil the bucket
building regs state that if u replace boiler or cylinder it must be changed to fully pumped sealed system with cylinder stat and room stat . so if u replace boiler just make sure its fully pumped s plan with both cylinder stat and room stat job done .
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phil the bucket
domestic heating design guide small red book . not sure what page its on defo in there
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phil the bucket
got given the book on an energy eff course......... not having a laugh
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Marty92
I think he's winding you up!
so you have a red book stating building regs which you cant find saying that all new boilers must be on a sealed system???
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phil the bucket
[DLMURL]https://www.cibseknowledgeportal.co.uk/component/dynamicdatabase/?layout=publication&revision_id=230[/DLMURL] check it out
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Marty92
Maybe you could scan the page....
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Gray0689
And what if there is a solid fuel link up in it!!
to specify and design does not mean build regs
why would i need a book to design a heating system when i was a time served apprentice???
why would i need a book to design a heating system when i was a time served apprentice???
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phil the bucket
cant be arsed scanning the page defo in there about if u change boiler or cylinder u must change to fully pumped s plan with stats on both cylinder and central heating. The book is really good for boiler sizing, pipe sizing, cylinder sizing, don't really care if u don't believe me just trying to help
Are you Chinese ? they have a little red book !
so it doesn't say you must seal system??
i am not saying i dont believe you but would like to know the reg where its says you must seal system on every boiler change or cylinder change like you said in earlier post .
im not aware of that reg so would like pointing in that direction
im not aware of that reg so would like pointing in that direction
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phil the bucket
its got references to building regs in the book. I im also a timed served apprentice with 10 yrs experience but don't care who u are u still need reference books in the van nobody can remember every thing.
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Marty92
Nobody is suggesting you need to know/remember everything, you just need to be able to point to actual regs for claims you may make.
Leo is bored 🙂
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Marty92
Please can anyone pm me the answer to my op now I'm verified
Hi Marty try section 6 of the Building Reg's AD Part L2B http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_AD_L2B_2011.pdf There is a compliance guide somewhere I will have a look & get back to you.
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phil the bucket
didn't relise I said sealed system its not a requirement but good practise in my opion sorry guys I was wrong .http://www.idhee.org.uk/TACMA Guide 2010.pdf guide line in the link
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Marty92
Cheers Chris, I had read and discounted section 6, mainly because its not a first installation or an increase in capacity, however a read of section 6 would make you believe you cannot replace a boiler with a larger model without almost rebuilding the whole place to a thermally efficient standard 😀
welcome to the forum phil ( even tho you been member since 2010 :wink_smile: )
He's a slow typer
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