ceramic sink?

[dave1]

hi guys ive got install 2x ceramic kitchen sinks and will need to drill the hole for the taps, the sinks are reverisable and i presume have markings as where to drill, just wondered what drill bit you would use and any advise as these sinks are £200+
many thanks

 

[sonray ltd]

good luck you'll need it.

 

[dontknowitall]

You could ask the manufacturer/supplier if they'll make the holes for you.

 

[pnhsolutions]

I would look for somebody to carry out the work for you!
It is an absolute nightmare and when it goes wrong there is no way of putting it right!

 

[dave1]

these sinks are from b&q, didnt know if anyone had fitted these previosly,
excellent advise so far guys now i really am bricking it lol

 

[sonray ltd]

useally everything from bq never go's to plan.

have you a link for these sinks ?

 

[newbie1]

i would def waint till u get a definative answer on what to use to drill it and use plenty of masking tape just in case

 

[migoplumber]

a decent tool wholesaler, will be able to sell you stainless steel tap cutter.
basically drill a hole in the sink in 13mm exactly in the centre of your reqd tap position, then you place half the tool underneath the sink, the other half on top place a bolt through the top piece ( unthreaded ) which will then pass through the sink and thread onto the cutting piece below the sink. tighten by hand, then get your ratchet out and tighten bolt. the bottom cutter is pulled through the sink and you have a lovely clean hole!! it has never failed me on a sink in 15years.

by the way if any of my clients provide stuff from b+q to fit, id ask them nicely. to ask b+q to come fit it.

forget, all the above. sorry im a plonker. didnt read the post correctly. stainless steel, and ceramic. wot an idiot.
sorry again.
good luck

 

[unguided1]

Hi all I have done loads of these and this is how I do
1. decide which way the sink is going in then turn it over to find the indent that the manufacturers have left for the tap hole knock out and measure its exact location.
2. Turn the sink back over and measure again to where the tap is going to be installed and mark with a pencil, then cover the area with masking tape so you can still see the pencil mark. The tape stops the ceramic from chipping.
3. I usually use an ordinary 8mm masonry drill to drill a hole through the centre making sure the drill is not on hammer I stress not on hammer.
4. Once the hole is made I then take a hammer and centre punch and chip around the hole until the whole of the knockout is removed, every so often turn over the sink to make sure your knocking out within the confines of the knockout.
5. check out the look of dismay as you approach your customers brand new extremley expensive ceramic sink with a hammer and chisel, Priceless !!!!
regards
Mike
PS
I have found that these types of sinks can be bought extremely cheap in france from Brico Depot stores, mind you that was before the pound became so poor against the euro

 

[billybongo]

I have done same as unguided up to drilling 8mm hole , then if my bottle goes i have filed out with round rasp type file till monoblocs slide through ,
can be a bit time consuming but safe , ps i have drilled wrong side but only once cause its painful

 

[justlead1]

Hi Theres a fellow on here advertises his wares, some thig like "365 drill"
Good luck

 

[unguided1]

Hi Billybongo
just to let all know the reason why I start with an 8mm hole is because I once gave a sink a severe clout to get it started and the enamel went where I didnt want it to, I also leave the 18lb sledgehammer in the unguided missile so I dont get too excited.
regards
Mike
PS
for those of you who still have the old rawl plug mason master heres another use for it, go on you dont need a special drill, just clout it.

 

[billybongo]

Hi Mike, the reason i used 8mm was because it seemed the safest choice the first time round and also aloud for the file to go through , and the main reason was the sink was somewhere around £300 ,like playing with a bomb i thought , cheers mark

 

[dave1]

thanks for all of your great advice, ill let you know the out come when i eventually get round to doing it.

 

[Carl86]

Id check out 365 Drills sounds like it could do just that job.

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[365drills]

[video=youtube;PpZVa5I0blA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpZVa5I0blA[/video]


http://*********.com/jpgs/hole3.jpg

The diamond core tile drills at 365-Drills are perfect to cut into sinks, ceramic sinks, toilets, waste pans,

You can open up a 30mm hole (normal tap) to a 35mm hole (mixer tap)

Add LED lights

Add after market pure water taps

New holes or existing holes. Makes no odds

http://*********.com/jpgs/hole4.jpg

Perfect holes drilled into ceramic sinks etc with PORSADRILL from 365-drills

 

[365drills]

[video=youtube;WSMig1vWc8g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSMig1vWc8g&feature=player_embedded[/video]

 

[turnpin]

[video=youtube;WSMig1vWc8g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSMig1vWc8g&feature=player_embedded[/video]

Amazing display Richard will see if I can persuade someone to put on their Christmas list for Me ....oh and when are the steel toe capped socks being released?...regards turnpin:rofl:

 

[Guest123]

A sharp pointed chisel as per the manufacturers instructions.

 

[PlumbBobBob]

i've acquired a small cold chisel just for this purpose although the first time i did it was really nerve-racking to say the least lol

 

[Mike Jackson]

I normally use a nail punch.

 

[PlumbBobBob]

yes my little chisel is the length of a nail punch but chisel ended

 

[365drills]

http://*********.com/jpgs/hole1.jpg


Here's another little "How to" video that we did at the same time.


[video=youtube;rySI9G_8GHU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rySI9G_8GHU[/video]


The basic concept is that you have a unit with a hole pre-drilled and that you want to enlarge.

Its a bit like if you have a bigger size tap to fit on a sink. The hole is already there you just need a bigger one but in the same place.

What can you do if you want a bigger hole drilled into a ceramic sink in the same location as the existing hole.

Something useful is that the yellow guide plate will flex and bend to the shape of the material being drilled. Its not rigid.

Ceramic sinks and toilets etc are a pain for being rounded and smooth (and slippery) so difficult to clamp and sit still.

Hopefully these videos will help some!

Note all ALL stages of drilling SAFETY SOCKS were worn (steel toe capped socks) to comply with health and safety...

 

[stevetheplumber]

they just tap out with a little chisel or just tap with a little tack hammer always from the top ie face side