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[Mickyplumb]

Adam, yep exactly right, I think Nerrad Tools have them rebranded? I looked at the Knipex, again a quality product but I was put off by the adjustment sprund steel mechanism. The knipex are also a little bulky in the jaw mind you the Nerrad VB isn't exactly slim.
What these do is give you real confidence, being honest I wouldn't have had as much confidence using my stilsons on this with one hand, loading it as much as I did.


Legionella...my secret is out !!!!!

The Arneg are good but they are a pump plier, completely different animal.

 

[adam84]

Adam, yep exactly right, I think Nerrad Tools have them rebranded? I looked at the Knipex, again a quality product but I was put off by the adjustment sprund steel mechanism. The knipex are also a little bulky in the jaw mind you the Nerrad VB isn't exactly slim.
What these do is give you real confidence, being honest I wouldn't have had as much confidence using my stilsons on this with one hand, loading it as much as I did.


Legionella...my secret is out !!!!!

The Arneg are good but they are a pump plier, completely different animal.

The nerrad tool line is offered on the corgi website although i woudnt give them another penny if my life depended on it, that said have you seen the price of knipex pliers wrenches on e-bay lately!

 

[LegionellaSlave]

Alright adam and micky.

I'm gonna get new pump pliers soon. I use rothenberger now and I've had CK before, both good.

I seen newer versions of roths here

Rothenberger - Ro-Fast Lock Plier - 10: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

But I'm drawn to the cobras which look like they'll do bigger nuts (stop laughing) which I seen here

Knipex 8701250 Cobra Water Pump Pliers 46 mm Capacity: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

What do you reckon lads?

 

[Mickyplumb]

Alright adam and micky.

I'm gonna get new pump pliers soon. I use rothenberger now and I've had CK before, both good.

I seen newer versions of roths here

Rothenberger - Ro-Fast Lock Plier - 10: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

But I'm drawn to the cobras which look like they'll do bigger nuts (stop laughing) which I seen here

Knipex 8701250 Cobra Water Pump Pliers 46 mm Capacity: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

What do you reckon lads?

Hey LS. The Nerrad VB and the Knipex plier wrench are completely different in operation. On both of these, they use leverage multiplication in as much as however hard you squeeze the handle, the jaw squeezing is multiplied by 10 times. Both use like a pivot assembly at the jaw and not a direct action like all the pump pliers on the market .... am I making sense ?
These to me are more like at ratchet action open ended spanner that you can adjust the clamping force on the nut/fitting you are working on.
Pump pliers have to rely on teeth on the jaws to grip the flats on a nut/fitting because you simply wouldn't get the grip at the jaws with just direct action handles. Again, does this make sense guys ?

 

[LegionellaSlave]

Cheers micky.
I get how they work but I'm just replacing my pump pliers.

Knipex or Rothenberger?

Think I'm gonna get the Knipex Cobra ones

 

[adam84]

Ha ha! no it doesnt make sense, you said they both operate differently then describe them both the same way but i get what your trying to say, they both operate to with the same intention but in slightly different ways. LS i would go for the new version Knipex alligator grips, ive had both the ro-lock pliers and the cobras, the ro-locks are really bulky with small jaw capacity and rust up easily and i find the button on the cobras awkward to use. Make sure you go for the blue and red comfort grip rather than the dipped grip they last longer. Just my 2c

 

[Mickyplumb]

Ha ha! no it doesnt make sense, you said they both operate differently then describe them both the same way but i get what your trying to say, they both operate to with the same intention but in slightly different ways. LS i would go for the new version Knipex alligator grips, ive had both the ro-lock pliers and the cobras, the ro-locks are really bulky with small jaw capacity and rust up easily and i find the button on the cobras awkward to use. Make sure you go for the blue and red comfort grip rather than the dipped grip they last longer. Just my 2c

LOL, my bad, I meant the VB's and Knipex work differently to normal pump pliers... It's late

 

[LegionellaSlave]

Hmmm.

I've always swerved pliers with buttons but the cobras have been praised by many on here.
Is there a new version of alligators?

Cheers mate

 

[adam84]

Its the same as the old model but it opens wider, wide enough for the 10" version to get on a pump nut comfortably.

 

[LegionellaSlave]

Thanks adam. Still undecided though. :rolleyes2: