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there is definitely certain specialised areas in plumbing.
As in?
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there is definitely certain specialised areas in plumbing.
i used to have a mate called marlon!
As in?
i agree, this is where i am.ok lets take a step further, why didnt you study and achieve technician Level, too hard for you? if some guys get level 2 then work damn hard and learn tons by doing it to make a wee life for their families what are they doing wrong, a lot of jobs we do now dont require technician or advanced level, nothing gets fixed now all things just get binned and renewed like for like, and these days how many people are required to design a full install of 20 whbs and wc's over 4 levels
i agree, this is where i am.
started in '77' on apprenticeship got sacked by my uncle.lol.
later did the nvq 2 & tech 3 and thought why do i need system planning for large projects, buisness planning, stock ordering?. unless i wanted a job in the offfice.
nvq 3 dont make you a better plumber than a nvq 2,
experience does.imo.
also, i disagree that a nvq 2 is a basic level and nvq 3 advanced, as your what the o.p is saying that there is no intermediate level. now c&g 2&3 i would say is a basic level off plumbing knowledge but not skill.imo.
ok lets take a step further, why didnt you study and achieve technician Level, too hard for you? if some guys get level 2 then work damn hard and learn tons by doing it to make a wee life for their families what are they doing wrong, a lot of jobs we do now dont require technician or advanced level, nothing gets fixed now all things just get binned and renewed like for like, and these days how many people are required to design a full install of 20 whbs and wc's over 4 levels
Hi, first post, be gentle....
I am new to the industry & a 'fast tracker', I've just spent the last 8 months doing a Gas ACS, CPA1, Energy Efficiency (Part L) a week at Baxi Main Potterton & days at Vokera, Vaillant, Viessmann, Glow Worm, Honeywell etc. I'm in the process of starting an NVQ2 at college to learn the water side.
Reading the last post regarding the NVQ Level 3, the only thing I'm missing is the water regs, soils & unvented!!
Have I done them the wrong way round?
Marion lol
do things properly
That is what I am doing and it comes with a qaulification otherwise I wouldnt be doing it if was of no value.
That is what I am doing and it comes with a qaulification otherwise I wouldnt be doing it if was of no value.
defined scope,full scope part p is not a qualification.
Do it long enough and it happens to everyone at some point.
The plumber who says he has never has a leak come through a ceiling is a liar.
So have i, just the once touch wood. Straight through, breaking a couple of ribs and a finger and various cuts and scrapes on the way.ive stepped through a couple!!
yes it is, well the vrq is, people just call it part p but there is a part p vrq
So have i, just the once touch wood. Straight through, breaking a couple of ribs and a finger and various cuts and scrapes on the way.
Got the afternoon off work to get my finger in a splint, a couple of sticking plasters and told to swallow some paracetamols if i needed them
defined scope,full scope, forget the part p bit, is not a qualification.
call it what you like defined scope full scope PART P,is not a qualificationits what people call it though
These courses make a mockery of my 4 years both in college and on the job as a proper apprentice. No wonder many house holders are going down the DIY route as they're sh*t scared who'll come and work in their homes with all the inexperienced and cowboys out there claiming to be experts.
I don't touch electrics as I'm not trained or qualified, or major joinery work or large gas installations, even though I know how and have the skills to do these, yet in two weeks someone can claim to be a trained professional. I've been a plumber since 1982, but how is a house holder to know that over someone who'se been one for two weeks? It should be law that a qaulified trainee should have to do a further probationery period.
A fully qualified electrician does that for me and he gives me a safety certificate when he's finished. I add his fee on to the bill and when I explain to the customer that he/she is getting electrics done by a fully qualified electrician and it will be guaranteed safe complete with a certificate and guarantee, they always agree.so who does the electrica when youve fitted a central heating system? do you want to spend another 4 years as an apprentice to wire it up?
A fully qualified electrician does that for me and he gives me a safety certificate when he's finished. I add his fee on to the bill and when I explain to the customer that he/she is getting electrics done by a fully qualified electrician and it will be guaranteed safe complete with a certificate and guarantee, they always agree.
A fully qualified electrician does that for me and he gives me a safety certificate when he's finished. I add his fee on to the bill and when I explain to the customer that he/she is getting electrics done by a fully qualified electrician and it will be guaranteed safe complete with a certificate and guarantee, they always agree.
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