My first cylinder install with boiler

[ShaunCorbs]

Wasn't too far off stabbing the parts at 4K

 

[jaydebruyne]

Just under 150 a day for London jay is too cheap

Day rate is £250 for plumbing, £350 for gas.. I’ll just have to put this one down to experience and move on!! If I can...

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Day rate is £250 for plumbing, £350 for gas.. I’ll just have to put this one down to experience and move on!! If I can...

Anything like you've just done with both bits (plumbing and gas ) half / middle your charges

So your day rate for a job like you've just done £300 etc

 

[jaydebruyne]

Anything like you've just done with both bits (plumbing and gas ) half / middle your charges

So your day rate for a job like you've just done £300 etc

I think I’ll just have to say it took longer than expected and charge £300 a day, don’t want to completely lose out here!!

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I think I’ll just have to say it took longer than expected and charge £300 a day, don’t want to completely lose out here!!

Did you quote for wiring it up ?

 

[jaydebruyne]

Did you quote for wiring it up ?

Lol no.. I just thought that’s a part of it all. I just looked at my original quote and I said I based my quote on 6 days work which may extend and materials may also increase so that’s good!! Thank %#^* I said that!! Phew how I thought I’d get that done in 6 days is beyond me!!!

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Would add a bit on that to even it out etc

Could loose £600 on electrics

And pays to have a good set of t and c

Also your lab would of been right if it was 6 days just over 300 a day

 

[jaydebruyne]

Would add a bit on that to even it out etc

Could loose £600 on electrics

And pays to have a good set of t and c

Yeah I need to sort that out ASAP!! You charge £600 to wire it up?? No wonder I’m skint lol

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yeah I need to sort that out ASAP!! You charge £600 to wire it up?? No wonder I’m skint lol

On a full system yes day to day and a bit and materials

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Want me to break one of our quotes down for you ?

 

[jaydebruyne]

Want me to break one of our quotes down for you ?

Yes please mate!!

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yes please mate!!

np will write something up tom

 

[jaydebruyne]

np will write something up tom

Cheers Shaun, much appreciated!! If I’m ever up in Wales I’ll shout you a few beers

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Cheers Shaun, much appreciated!! If I’m ever up in Wales I’ll shout you a few beers

one rule what happens in wales stays in wales (applys to sheep riding also)

 

[jaydebruyne]

one rule what happens in wales stays in wales (applys to sheep riding also)

Lol I’ll bring a mars bar

 

[Harvest Fields]

Out of curiosity, roughly what would you guys charge (labour only) to fit a system like this.. all new heating and cold/hot water pipework throughout, 10 rads, boiler/cylinder and all controls and new gas run, about 16 meters.

Is it empty?

 

[jaydebruyne]

Is it empty?

As in the property, at the moment yes

 

[Harvest Fields]

one rule what happens in wales stays in wales (applys to sheep riding also)

Sheep riding? Is that what the welsh are all I g it nowadays?

 

[Harvest Fields]

As in the property, at the moment yes

Repipe hot and cold to all bathrooms, ensuite and WC?

Edit due to spellings

 

[jaydebruyne]

Repipe hot and cold to all bathrooms, ensuite and WC?

Edit due to spellings

Have fed hot/cold and heating pipework through to bathroom which I’m also doing separately. Loft bathroom already done by a loft firm, I just had to connect it by cylinder.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Without looking at it, if I was there 11 days anywhere between £3/4K labour.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Sheep riding? Is that what the welsh are all I g it nowadays?

shhhhhh its on the down low

 

[jaydebruyne]

Without looking at it, if I was there 11 days anywhere between £3/4K labour.

Yeah gonna charge 3,600 labour

 

[Harvest Fields]

Yeah gonna charge 3,600 labour

To be honest mate. I know blokes that would charge 2.5k and 4.5k. I like to do a good job at a fair price. Bound to get more work out of it if you stay reasonable.

 

[jaydebruyne]

To be honest mate. I know blokes that would charge 2.5k and 4.5k. I like to do a good job at a fair price. Bound to get more work out of it if you stay reasonable.

Yeah I guess.. don’t wanna undersell myself though.. there’s reasonable and then there’s cheap! I’d rather be slightly expensive than slightly cheap, people’s perception of cheap isn’t positive!

 

[king of pipes]

Not gonna shoot you down jay overall a decent job mate , myself and the guys have given their opions . all the best kop

 

[ShaunCorbs]

To be honest mate. I know blokes that would charge 2.5k and 4.5k. I like to do a good job at a fair price. Bound to get more work out of it if you stay reasonable.

yea they would be in and out within 3-4 days tho

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Vessels are to high bud you cant access the schrader valves, pipe spacing is to tight for lagging , discharges which you sorted ?, your soldered joints need wipeing and cleaning up but i am being picky all the best kop

as you need to drop them onto the brackets yes there would

 

[jaydebruyne]

Vessels are to high bud you cant access the schrader valves, pipe spacing is to tight for lagging , discharges which you sorted ?, your soldered joints need wipeing and cleaning up but i am being picky all the best kop

Vessel schrader valves are accessible, angle of photo is misleading; unless pipes are in an external location or loft I don’t lag pipework, and I can’t see any green on my joints.. there was a bit on the hot outlet immediately as it left the cylinder which I cleaned off today though .. so not necessarily mistakes

 

[Scott_D]

The hot should be insulated

 

[Old Account]

Nice piece of work, can only agree with the portfolio ... I would have put some lever valves on the automatic air vents as they are leaking quite often. Did you actually put a scale reducer in ? What about insulation ?

 

[jaydebruyne]

The hot should be insulated

I’ve not seen any cylinder pipework insulated unless in a loft or garage..

 

[jaydebruyne]

Nice piece of work, can only agree with the portfolio . I would have put some lever valves on the automatic air vents as they are leaking quite often. Did you actually put a scale reducer in ? What about insulation ?

Scale reducer on the cold inlet? Nope.. didn’t think of that to be honest.. Agreed with the vents but with the pump valves and the filter valves you can isolate the boiler AAV’s - the cylinders ones.. will just have to do it live.. not a biggie to do live to be honest, just snatch it with a towel underneath

 

[Scott_D]

I’ve not seen any cylinder pipework insulated unless in a loft or garage..

It's in the regs for g3

 

[jaydebruyne]

It's in the regs for g3

Huh... furry muff!! At least there’s not much hot pipework exposed

 

[Old Account]

It's in the regs for g3

I also think scale reducer is in the g3 regs ...but I was wrong before.

I don’t want to put you down I guess neither of us.
For me well done job and hoping more to come for you.

 

[Old Account]

Thanks for sharing your work

 

[jaydebruyne]

I also think scale reducer is in the g3 regs ...but I was wrong before.

I don’t want to put you down I guess neither of us.
For me well done job and hoping more to come for you.

I’ll have to check out the regs .. can’t see it being mandatory as scale is dependent on where you live

 

[ShaunCorbs]

It's in the regs for g3

tue also valid for vented cylinders but how many insulated them

also isnt it just for the first meter ?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I also think scale reducer is in the g3 regs ...but I was wrong before.

I don’t want to put you down I guess neither of us.
For me well done job and hoping more to come for you.

not true totally also a scale reducer wont work for an unvented cylinder you would need a softener

 

[Scott_D]

tue also valid for vented cylinders but how many insulated them

also isnt it just for the first meter ?

I think it worded funnily
First meter or where it disappears into the fabric of the building

 

[jaydebruyne]

Have the G3 regs been updated in the last 3 years?? As when I got my G3 ticket I dont remember seeing anything about a scale filter.. I’ll have to download the latest guide

 

[Harvest Fields]

You don’t have to have a scale reducer on the unvented as far as I am aware.

 

[Scott_D]

I think scale protection would be covered in the MIs

 

[jaydebruyne]

I think scale protection would be covered in the MIs

I would have thought so.. nothing was mentioned in the MI’s for this cylinder.. and the Center brand are made by heatrae sadia

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I would have thought so.. nothing was mentioned in the MI’s for this cylinder.. and the Center brand are made by heatrae sadia

price wise jay?

 

[jaydebruyne]

price wise jay?

Think I paid £570+vat for a 250ltr

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Think I paid £570+vat for a 250ltr

thats good

 

[jaydebruyne]

thats good

That’s what I thought.. same 25 year guarantee as a megaflo too

 

[Old Account]

not true totally also a scale reducer wont work for an unvented cylinder you would need a softener

THATS why benchmarks is asking for it I guess if you are in a hard water area above 200 you require one that’s what benchmark says ... can’t remember 100% but you definitely have to fit one