No Data Badge - Should I Cap?

[TheRockSalt]

No data badge on gas fire so instead of capping the fire i put it on maximum and gas rated the appliance to determine if extra ventilation was needed. The fire was below 7kw so no extra ventilation needed. On the certificate I put NCS as there was no data badge. The fire passed all the checks so I had no reason to cap, is this correct?

 

[leethegasman]

From memory the last course i was on said no data plate means no way of knowing how to get a instalation manual so should be caped off but i would give gas safe a call to confirm as some collages seam to tell you one thing one time then somthing diffrent the next they are very helpfull. i had one the other day never came across before gas light in a work shop i was thinking needs capping off rang gas safe as long as it worked was ok to leave connected and it is a appliance and there was no manual so made note on service sheet that i rang gas safe for advice

 

[Doodlebug]

If no info but passes basic safety checks, ie: flue flow, spillage, fsd, gas rate and no signs of spillage then leave as AT RISK. IMO

 

[AWheating]

how do you gas rate an appliance without knowing its input?

no data badge, no likey.

 

[REDSAW]

If no info but passes basic safety checks, ie: flue flow, spillage, fsd, gas rate and no signs of spillage then leave as AT RISK. IMO

then why bother?

 

[kirkgas]

If no info but passes basic safety checks, ie: flue flow, spillage, fsd, gas rate and no signs of spillage then leave as AT RISK. IMO

with no relevant info how can you guarantee to have done the spillage test from the correct place, and how do you know what the HI should be, if you gas rate you will know what it is but without info it could be more than 5% over and cant be left on,
NO DATA BADGE = NO LEAVE ON

 

[TheRockSalt]

how do you gas rate an appliance without knowing its input?

no data badge, no likey.

you don't need to gas rate a fire for it to pass, the only reason I gas rated was to find the kw to determine the need for extra ventilation.

 

[Blake]

I don't think you are grasping what folks are saying pal, re-read Kirkgas last post. Also, no disrespect intended, but probably not the best idea to carry out an action then ask if it was correct on a forum.

To cover your own back, if in doubt call gas safe or cap until the relevant info can be found.

 

[AWheating]

you don't need to gas rate a fire for it to pass, the only reason I gas rated was to find the kw to determine the need for extra ventilation.

you either need to measure and confirm its burner pressure, gas rate or both as required by the regs, so this cant be done without relevant data badge or instructions.

theres no real point to gas rate to try a determine ventilation as you have no idea if the measurement is correct anyway. you might aswell just guess.

 

[FlameWorx]

It all comes down to the basics, ID - capping it off, it would have to be an immediate danger to life or property, ie gas escape, spillage, incomplete combustion etc you all no the drill, anything or than immediately dangerous situation at the time of testing is classed as At Risk. Just because you don't know the ventilation requirements, the burner pressure or gas rate doesn't make it a life threatening situation. You cant just cap appliances off because you don't feel comfortable leaving it on. Under gassed or over gassed appliances are At Risk as long as it doesn't effect the appliance operation ie flame lift or delayed ignition, undersized or no ventilation again is At Risk so long as flue flow & spillage & general conditions are OK.