No Data Badge - Should I Cap?

[leakeee]

Cap the meter off just before xmas!

 

[REDSAW]

first thing i would of done is look for the db, then inform the customer of what you will have to do if you work on it, which you should not anyway.
then its a matter of acting in their best interest by informing the customer it cannot be properly checked then its their choice to leave as is or make safe, and i charge just the same if i dont touch it.

 

[GrahamM]

It all comes down to the basics, ID - capping it off, it would have to be an immediate danger to life or property, ie gas escape, spillage, incomplete combustion etc you all no the drill, anything or than immediately dangerous situation at the time of testing is classed as At Risk. Just because you don't know the ventilation requirements, the burner pressure or gas rate doesn't make it a life threatening situation. You cant just cap appliances off because you don't feel comfortable leaving it on. Under gassed or over gassed appliances are At Risk as long as it doesn't effect the appliance operation ie flame lift or delayed ignition, undersized or no ventilation again is At Risk so long as flue flow & spillage & general conditions are OK.

Spot on there!
As mentioned- unless you know the appliance is a danger to life or property it is going to be at-risk in the absence of MI's etc.

 

[zeebeedee]

In social housing the only time we come across this situation is with a tenants own fire otherwise its a standard Robinson visa. In these cases we test the flue as its what we are responsible for. The appliance is turned off and labeled as at risk. Warning notice is issued stating tenant needs to get the appliance inspected.

 

[kirkgas]

you don't need to gas rate a fire for it to pass, the only reason I gas rated was to find the kw to determine the need for extra ventilation.

have a read of 26 (9) then tell me you are doing EVERYTHING you should be

 

[TheRockSalt]

have a read of 26 (9) then tell me you are doing EVERYTHING you should be

Good point kirkgas 26 (9) (c)its operating pressure or heat input or, where necessary, both;

So does this mean this should be done on a boiler as I was under the impression the analyser trumps this?

 

[neily01]

Good point kirkgas 26 (9) (c)its operating pressure or heat input or, where necessary, both;

So does this mean this should be done on a boiler as I was under the impression the analyser trumps this?

You should still confirm one or the other when analyzing. If you can check a burner pressure use that, or on a premix the usual gas rate.

 

[GrahamM]

Good point kirkgas 26 (9) (c)its operating pressure or heat input or, where necessary, both;

So does this mean this should be done on a boiler as I was under the impression the analyser trumps this?

Are you qualified?
You seriously saying you do not know that a BP or gas rate is required.
Got to be a ****-take!

 

[AWheating]

Good point kirkgas 26 (9) (c)its operating pressure or heat input or, where necessary, both;

So does this mean this should be done on a boiler as I was under the impression the analyser trumps this?

why do so many many people seem to be getting into the mindset that if you use an analyser you cover'd and dont need to do anything else?

the gas regs have not changed recently, you still need to adhere to them. An analyser does nothing other than confirm combustion readings, it does not mean you dont have to do all your other standard checks and most importantly follow manufacturers instructions.

 

[Deleted member 64964]

You did a gas rate to confirm it's size because it didn't have a data badge? The whole idea of the data badge and the gas rate is to confirm it is actually operating as it should be and using the correct amount of gas for which it was intended.

How do you not know it wasn't designed as a 9kw fire?

OFF and cap end OF.

How does an analyser trump anything, its purpose isn't related.