Un-sleeved gas pipe, landlord saftey check.

[ShaunCorbs]

thing is the appliance in question is the gas meter so your turning off the gas meter ?

 

[Harvest Fields]

thing is the appliance in question is the gas meter so your turning off the gas meter ?

I get that. And I know what you are saying. But it doesn’t say cap off.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I get that. And I know what you are saying. But it doesn’t say cap off.

the effect is the same tho a customer with no gas

 

[sammathias]

Still wouldn't cap the meter tho

 

[Harvest Fields]

the effect is the same tho a customer with no gas

Yes. But one is capped (ID) or isolated (AR)

Edit due to bad grammar and beer

 

[Harvest Fields]

I’m so glad this is in a closed group. Otherwise no one would trust any of us

 

[wattsie1987]

The main point here is the fact of the location, because it's in meter box there is unregulated gas pressure (up to 75mb) which could potentially have a much higher leakage rate. Also no dilution with air will take place in a meter box. The key point is that prevention should be in place to stop that entering the building in the result of a leak. Ie the sealing in this instance is more important than the sleeve providing no deteriation of pipework.

As it stands its AR and turn off. Sealing it would lead it to be non compliant and advise customer regarding sleeve.

If it wasn't in a meter box it would just be non compliant regardless of sleeve or seal.

Hope this helps!

 

[Harvest Fields]

The main point here is the fact of the location, because it's in meter box there is unregulated gas pressure (up to 75mb) which could potentially have a much higher leakage rate. Also no dilution with air will take place in a meter box. The key point is that prevention should be in place to stop that entering the building in the result of a leak. Ie the sealing in this instance is more important than the sleeve providing no deteriation of pipework.

As it stands its AR and turn off. Sealing it would lead it to be non compliant and advise customer regarding sleeve.

If it wasn't in a meter box it would just be non compliant regardless of sleeve or seal.

Hope this helps!

The point about the meter box is the point I was making and the reason I was asking which gas pipe. But thanks for the support.

 

[Old Account]

Nah, ID capped , AR turned off , with the owners permission of course .

If owner disagrees with AR turning off, do I need to fill out a form and attach a label and what should I do then if they don’t let me turning the appliance off when having AR ?

When having ID i will cap the meter or the appliance with customers permission, issuing a form and label it. If customers doesn’t want me I would need to call transco don’t I ?

I just want to be sure as I never done that but perhaps one day I come across something like this.

Thanks

 

[Harvest Fields]

@Matchless.plumb I cannot go through all this again mate. Really sorry. But the short version is if customer refuses either an isolation (AR) or disconnect (ID) (a cap off is not a disconnect which is needed for an ID) you call CADENT not Transco. Hope this makes sense if not I will type it all again and try to word it better