Fast track gas course

[Dougie2019]

looking at doing a fast track gas course in the Glasgow area and was wondering if there’s any in the Glasgow area that do these course and after the course is done is it possible to get a job with little experience

 

[Old Account]

If you use the search box top left you will find a lot of threads like this. If you use google you may be able to find in Glasgow an academy.

 

[gmartine]

Highly unlikely mate, not without experience unless you starting somewhere at entry level.

 

[Sharp Point]

looking at doing a fast track gas course in the Glasgow area and was wondering if there’s any in the Glasgow area that do these course and after the course is done is it possible to get a job with little experience

I’m going to put my neck on the line and say ‘no’, nobody will touch you with a barge pole with no/ little experience.

 

[Scott_D]

What do you do now?

 

[rpm]

Post #2 should say top right. 😱

 

[Dougie2019]

thats what i thought the company i look at said after the training you would get a job with the top firms if they had postion available

 

[Dougie2019]

What do you do now?

An just a driver the nkw looking for a career change

 

[rpm]

There has been many a sad tale on here where the trainee couldn`t finish the course within the time scale - Be very aware.

 

[townfanjon]

An just a driver the nkw looking for a career change

Nothing wrong with that mate , incredibly hard industry to get into , however easy if you know a heating engineer you would be probably 75% there .
Try tilling, mind numbing , but a good one is never short of work and its well paid .

 

[Dougie2019]

There has been many a sad tale on here where the trainee couldn`t finish the course within the time scale - Be very aware.

The course last for 26 weeks then 7 weeks on work placement

 

[townfanjon]

The course last for 26 weeks then 7 weeks on work placement

As RPM says , Its whats at the end of it pal , sometimes nothing , sorry

 

[rpm]

Search for reviews of the training company mate.

 

[SimonG]

How much you paying?

I'll take a wild stab in the dark.

You'll pass the course but won't be able to complete a portfolio to gain an NVQ.

 

[Dougie2019]

Search for reviews of the training company mate.

I have look at some reviews most have said the course was good learn a lot and had a job offer after work placement

 

[Dougie2019]

How much you paying?

I'll take a wild stab in the dark.

You'll pass the course but won't be able to complete a portfolio to gain an NOW.

Its comeing in at £7500 They said you do your portfolio when your doing your 7 weeks work placement

 

[Pickwickpick]

Its comeing in at £7500 They said you do your portfolio when your doing your 7 weeks work placement

Are they guaranteeing to provide you with that work placement, or do they expect you to sort it out yourself?

 

[Dougie2019]

Are they guaranteeing to provide you with that work placement, or do they expect you to sort it out yourself?

they guarantee you the work placement after your 26 weeks in the training centre

 

[Pickwickpick]

they guarantee you the work placement after your 26 weeks in the training centre

I'd make sure that's written in stone and that there's reviews off genuine trainees who can corroborate it. There's a lot of horror stories of people being left in the lurch with these training centres.

With regards to being employable afterwards, there aren't many employers that will take you on without a few years experience.

 

[Dougie2019]

I'd make sure that's written in stone and that there's reviews off genuine trainees who can corroborate it. There's a lot of horror stories of people being left in the lurch with these training centres.

With regards to being employable afterwards, there aren't many employers that will take you on without a few years experience.

So these training centres are only good if you were to go out on your own self employed

 

[Scott_D]

So these training centres are only good if you were to go out on your own self employed

Or upskilling from plumbing.

 

[BYP]

What’s the name of the training center? Some of these courses are not worth it. Also follow what Pickwick has said. If they can’t provide the details I’d give them a wide birth.

 

[Dougie2019]

What’s the name of the training center? Some of these courses are not worth it. Also follow what Pickwick has said. If they can’t provide the details I’d give them a wide birth.

Skills Training Group

 

[BYP]

Skills Training Group

They seem to checkout online as much as one can tell, ask for references from previous trainees and make sure they’re genuine, etc working for a company.

 

[Dougie2019]

They seem to checkout online as much as one can tell, ask for references from previous trainees and make sure they’re genuine, etc working for a company.

Thanks i will try and get sone references from previous students even if it all does check out i still find it very difficult to get a job if i pass the course

 

[Pickwickpick]

So these training centres are only good if you were to go out on your own self employed

Unless you have personal contacts in the industry then pretty much yes, there are so many of these training firms churning people out that the qualification is not what is in demand, its experience. Someone inexperienced could cost an employer way more than they bring in and they're not going to take that risk when they can employ someone with a track record.

As @scott_d says, the exception to that is people upskilling from plumbing. This is what I'm in the process of doing and I'd say the group I've been in is split roughly 50:50 between those that are already either gas/water and those from other backgrounds (they have do do an extra 4 weeks). The guys that are not from gas/water background are pretty demoralised at this stage, a couple of them seem to be planning on just doing landlord certs (which I think is wrong) but seeing as you now have to be on the register for at least 6 months before you can do your cookers & fires, I think they're going to struggle.

 

[Scott_D]

Unless you have personal contacts in the industry then pretty much yes, there are so many of these training firms churning people out that the qualification is not what is in demand, its experience. Someone inexperienced could cost an employer way more than they bring in and they're not going to take that risk when they can employ someone with a track record.

As @scott_d says, the exception to that is people upskilling from plumbing. This is what I'm in the process of doing and I'd say the group I've been in is split roughly 50:50 between those that are already either gas/water and those from other backgrounds (they have do do an extra 4 weeks). The guys that are not from gas/water background are pretty demoralised at this stage, a couple of them seem to be planning on just doing landlord certs (which I think is wrong) but seeing as you now have to be on the register for at least 6 months before you can do your cookers & fires, I think they're going to struggle.

Is that a recent change?

 

[Dougie2019]

Unless you have personal contacts in the industry then pretty much yes, there are so many of these training firms churning people out that the qualification is not what is in demand, its experience. Someone inexperienced could cost an employer way more than they bring in and they're not going to take that risk when they can employ someone with a track record.

As @scott_d says, the exception to that is people upskilling from plumbing. This is what I'm in the process of doing and I'd say the group I've been in is split roughly 50:50 between those that are already either gas/water and those from other backgrounds (they have do do an extra 4 weeks). The guys that are not from gas/water background are pretty demoralised at this stage, a couple of them seem to be planning on just doing landlord certs (which I think is wrong) but seeing as you now have to be on the register for at least 6 months before you can do your cookers & fires, I think they're going to struggle.

Thanks for the advice i thinking now the course would be a waste of money if i couldnt get i job after the training

 

[Pickwickpick]

Is that a recent change?

Yep applies to anyone who started training after October 2018. There's also now a minimum 10 week wait between finishing MLP (managed learning programme) and doing CCN1.

 

[Pickwickpick]

Thanks for the advice i thinking now the course would be a waste of money if i couldnt get i job after the training

No probs, maybe look into tiling as @townfanjon advised. The courses should be shorter (the tilingforum is a great resource), you'd still probably have to go self employed (although ask one the tiling forum I could be wrong) but its a much more viable option with limited experience than gas work and tilers seem to get paid decent money.

 

[Dougie2019]

Thanks for the advice think i will need to rethink and look futher into this before i book any courses

 

[Pickwickpick]

Best of luck with it all mate.

 

[Dougie2019]

Best of luck with it all mate.

Thanks

 

[Old Account]

Post #2 should say top right. 😱

So true 🙂

 

[Aire]

If you really want to get into gas then you really need to work along side a good and competent enginner, believe me I know. I didn't go the usual route and although I'm employed and gas registered, i wouldbt class my knowledge as the same as most engineers and it has held me back. Have you tried British gas? I think they train their engineers up fairly quickly compared to the traditional route and would be a better choice than those training centres.