This made my blood boil

[tamz]

One thing most of you will find out is that 98% of joiners, no matter how good they can hack a bit wood, are scum bags. The dregs of the trades. Absolutely no consideration for any other trade except themselves. (i made it 98% because i know hundreds of joiners but only 2 decent ones!)

keiran when you need a joiner don't call him! then when you bump into him

Do it head first :angry_smile:

I just had an email form a guy who accepted my estimate, watched me fit his boiler and now after I invoiced him he is querying the amount of materials I'm billing.

Never split your invoice into labour and a list of materials. It encourages the internet bandits. Invoice total cost as quoted.

customers really annoy me

Your learning :lol:

 

[cr0ft]

croft, the electric work wasn't in a kitchen or bathroom by any chance was it?

Yes mate, I'm a full scope electrician now.

 

[Guest123]

Not just joiners who can be scum bags but those know it all diy'er handymen that think they know it all are worse. Local paper is full of handymen adverts. Jack of all Trades, master of none if you ask me.

 

[cr0ft]

Yes met a couple of them before. Met a builder once who was telling me how to plumb so I just started asking him technical questions from the Building Regulations and he soon shut up 🙂

 

[Barry98]

Yes met a couple of them before. Met a builder once who was telling me how to plumb so I just started asking him technical questions from the Building Regulations and he soon shut up 🙂

hope i dont bump into you and you start asking me cos i cant remeber half the buggers lol.

 

[stani]

Yes mate, I'm a full scope electrician now.

Sorry Croft, I read it as the joiner doing the electrics, was hoping you could nail (sic) him that way. I also do full scope electrics

 

[desrob]

Well, if there's one thing I've realised I hate more than any other..

I met a joiner whilst at my customer's house today doing some electrical work as it happens. Seemed really friendly. Once I finished I was over at my folks house when I get a call from my customer.

'Keiran, have you got 2 minutes?'

'Sure, what's up?'

'The joiner asked how much you where charging for the bathroom. I told him £1,300 including VAT and he said that was extortionate, shouldn't be any more than £600..'

'Ok, well it's 5 days of work and around £200 of materials. Great that he's happy to work for less than minimum wage once he pays off his business running costs, but I'm not.'

A: - I can't believe someone would seriously be so unprofessional and also come in with such a ridiculous low price, he would earn much more working in a minimum wage job.
B: - This isn't the first time this customer has said he's short of cash. Yet amazingly, he's found the money to get 4 new double glazed windows put in that don't need replacing, brand new door frames, loft boarding, and a whole load of other things he didn't want done at the start.

The only good thing I guess is that I have a signed contract for the bathroom and the remainder of the work..

Grrrr.

and relax.

never mind been to dear, you seem cheap to me,£200 materials, i take it there buying the bath ,toilet etc.what electrical body are you registered with as you mentioned your FULL SCOPE,