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[Bernie2]

Just to think!

The Plumbers, gas fitters and central heating guys all had "No I won't be one of those unless you sentence me!" jobs?

We certainly do need some regulation in the industry. Imagine what is going to happen when all the cuts come in and perhaps millions are out of work?

The game is going to be stacked out and nobody make a reasonable living out of it.

Can we afford to go on like that?

As to employment opportunities how about trainee car mechanics/IT/accountants/solicitors/dentists and so on all trades that should be open like ours.
Just ask the new guys which they would rather be if a career path was open to them in these trades?

Solicitor would be good. You could probably learn things like property conveyance in a short time and open up for yourself charging fixed sums of about £300 a pop for about a couple of hours work.

Which ever way its is, ours seems to be full now.

 

[Veggie Dave]

If trainee was paying me,he could turn up as he wants and leave the same,as long as he paid the set contract fee,if a structure training scheme is in place all is well

In which case you'd be on much safer ground.

Is it not he Dept of Employment's concern,not he HM Revenue & Customs

You would think both would be involved but as it's all about finances/money, it's HMR&C who get involved.

Thought a lot of exception in every law

Indeed, which is why you, as a self-employed plumber, can charge as much or as little as you want. Your plumber's mate, on the other hand, will always be an employee (even if he classes himself as self-employed, a volunteer or a trainee) and therefore not eligible to waive his rights to the NMW.

Of course, many people don't care or are completely ignorant about the law with, unsurprisingly, politicians being some of the worst offenders.

 

[oldplumber]

if he under 19 and an apprentice it £95 / week, then min wage. All the banks etc are now liable for interns who worked for free as they can go to a tribunal and claim for lost wages etc. However, and its a BIG HOWEVER, theyll never get a job in that industry again, so are they going to sue for lost wages.

 

[REDSAW]

so the offer is £175 per week for training. oh. but i want paying min wage with contract n.i and the rest and..............hello..............anyone there?.

oops, back to square one, no training mentor to get through nvq.........
didnt want a job, just watch, help, learn for no financial reward.

your missing the trip chaps.lol

 

[kingm1988]

Well I for one would not have the ordasity to pay a plumber for their time and expertise to then report to the HMR&C that some shoddy plumber put me through 40hrs a week of hard labour and didn't even give me minimum wage. Very cheeky indeed. A good way to earn your money back though eh 😀

But seriously guys, what other option do we, as trainee's have? The government are certainly not going to subsidise plumbers to take us on, especially with all the cuts that have been planned, and especially as the amount of houses to be built over the next few years is currently half the projection. Is there any light at the end of the tunnel? Someone say yes!!

 

[REDSAW]

Apparently.//////////....
No.

 

[Puddle]

Is there any light at the end of the tunnel? Someone say yes!!

Yes,of course there is light at the end of the tunnel !!!,just it seems to be a extra long tunnel,maybe like the channel tunnel,with a train coming towards you,you are stood their on a single track, the light turns out to be the train lights dazzling you,the train is also on fire,with the smoke filling the tunnel and rodents running all over you trying to escape the tunnel, that other trainees are so readily entering 😱

But through it all the light shines !!

Always try to please king,hope that makes you feel better !! 🙁

Meanwhile we provide help and shelter here,in these forums ,which form the UK plumbers tunnel of love (on a good day),on a bad day,it can feel like carpal tunnel 😀

I still believe,if you work and train hard and become good at what you do,you will be ok,there is no room for mediocrity anymore,you will get no where,if you are going to do plumbing, be good at it,in plumbing ,you are always learning and you have to keep on pushing yourself forward to keep ahead,it is not a trade you can learn and then thats it ,practice it for 40 years and there are so many levels,giving opportunity for all,maybe that is part of the problem


imho