Gas meter moved from garage to front of property. How much to extend gas pipe?

[armyash]

Hi guys, was supposed to be a on a job today, fitting a new radiator to a kitchen, and piping up 2 newly added radiators. Turned up today and the customer has asked me to quote for additional work. The gas meter is being moved from the garage (which is currently being converted to a kids play room) to the front of the property (external) It's only about 8 meters worth of pipe, drilling through to the gas meter and connecting up. He wants it all done in one go and I don't want to be back and forth so said I will return Wednesday and do it all together.

Approximately what would you charge for something like this? Gas pipe will be clipped to the floor, run round to where the meter is, sleeved through the wall and connected up. Nothing big needs to be done.

Thanks.

Edit: it's not me moving the meter, just making the connection to what's already there.

 

[Dotty]

How long you think it'll take × your hourly rate + materials × markup - any discount you feel prepared to give.

 

[Meady]

£60 hour plus materials

 

[Leo21]

8 metres! You'll probably need some 28mm copper = expensive. I'd allow at least five to six hours, plus materials. Do your home work Ash, or you'll get your fingers burnt.

 

[armyash]

The customer is planning on burying this pipe as far as I am aware, to bring the floor level up to the same as the kitchen so I will have to make sure it is adequately protected. Even though some of what is already there has just had cement poured over it from what I could see.

 

[Dotty]

go with trac pipe or gas tite if it's getting buried Ash.

 

[armyash]

go with trac pipe or gas tite if it's getting buried Ash.

I think that's what I will have to do thanks Croppie.

I have never used this before, is it easy enough to get fittings to connect on to copper?

 

[Leo21]

I think that's what I will have to do thanks Croppie.

I have never used this before, is it easy enough to get fittings to connect on to copper?

Yes, it even comes with instructions.

 

[stevetheplumber]

i would just wrap copper if it going in screed i would probably use 28 but depends what its feeding and where

 

[Masood]

go with trac pipe or gas tite if it's getting buried Ash.

Pah! That's for pansies. What's wrong with Denso?! 😀

 

[armyash]

i would just wrap copper if it going in screed i would probably use 28 but depends what its feeding and where

It's only feeding a boiler and a cooker. Probably 12m gas run from the meter to the furthest appliance. Looks as though I will be doing the work tomorrow evening once I finish work so it will be a late one. Without compromising on how well it's installed I will be looking to do it as quick as possible.

 

[lame plumber]

sticky muck, plastic sheathed copper is an alternative to trac pipe, but if the original is already buried was that sleeved or does it need replacing if your name is going on the job?

 

[Leo21]

It's only feeding a boiler and a cooker. Probably 12m gas run from the meter to the furthest appliance. Looks as though I will be doing the work tomorrow evening once I finish work so it will be a late one. Without compromising on how well it's installed I will be looking to do it as quick as possible.

Only feeding a boiler! Ash come on, is it a combi? If so, chances are it will need 28mm. Don't forget the smallest combis are 24kw.

 

[AlexGas]

I think that's what I will have to do thanks Croppie.

I have never used this before, is it easy enough to get fittings to connect on to copper?

Have a read here:

http://www.tracpipe.co.uk/uploads/downloads/FGP-027UK_REV_Sept_2013.pdf

Hope it helps.

 

[armyash]

No it's not a combi. It's a Profile. If It needs 28mm then that's what I will do.

 

[Leo21]

No it's not a combi. It's a Profile. If It needs 28mm then that's what I will do.

I would, explain to custard your future proofing it for if he has a Combi. At extra cost to him obviously.

 

[Mike Jackson]

It's worth questioning them on their future plans. No point in sizing the gas pipe for the boiler there now if they intend to upgrade in the future. They'll end up paying the labour twice. If you use tracpipe or gastite you can buy a boiler kit which includes the pipe and terminal fittings. Cheapest place I found it was BES.

 

[armyash]

Thanks guys. For what it's worth I have only seen gas pipe upgraded from 15mm to 22mm when combi's have been installed except at a care home where a really big combi was put in and they had it upgraded to 28mm.

That's including all the jobs I assisted on. This job it's currently in 22mm.

 

[newcastle phill]

At minimum size the pipe for a 1mb drop as per the regs working pressure and advise re latitude for expansion

 

[armyash]

Does anyone use an online pipe sizing guide they can recommend? At present the meter is on the wall of the garage, 22mm comes off the meter straight down the wall and along the garage floor, straight in to the kitchen for the hob and then to the boiler. All in line, no other appliances. The meter is being moved approximately 4 meters further away.