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You have to remember that £23k would be hard to earn as a self employed plumber.
but he has to bring in more than that for his boss to keep him, nothing is easy just takes effort and stress. sorry if I pushed the winging, but you ought to see how my son deals with his staff asking for pay rises. He employs his younger sister and that can cause hassle, she was his office manager, on £20k, she wanted a rises so no she is a sales person, able to get £30k, but she has to work for it. He offered me a job, not that desperate yet to have to work for him 🙂 as I am only £5k a year behind him at present, but I think next year the gap is going to rapidly widen 🙁