3 month old grant job, what a mess.

[Sharp Point]

Right guys n gals,
Went to carry out a yearly gas safety check today at one of my long term landlords properties. Since a year ago he's been lucky to have a free boiler on the current ' whatever it's called' now scheme, the flue is perfect horizontal across the top of the units and goes to up and beyond. Yes its has been sort of adequately supported ( plasterboard fixings pulling out of wall).....

BUT

every clamp on each section is leaking condensate on top of boiler, if you look at pic 3 you can see the black staining on the upper cornice corner from moisture ingress. I stripped the entire flue and found 2x seals push out from hacksaw cut rough square edges on the inner flue.

WTF

What is wrong with people today!! and not lets get into the debate of ' contractors' on poor rates etc etc.

Ive spent some of my previous years contracting, banging in full heats and boiler upgrades in a day...ahem with a small team, but they were done excellently with aplomb. This boiler change was a combi swap, carried out by two blokes in a day!!! I use to do the same by myself in a day, but i would've had the minimum fall and chamfered and greased the flue prior to fitting.

Could i riddored the swines?

 

[Roger Welton]

in other news pope is catholic....

Whilst i'm sure some of these jobs are done to a good standard, they must be in a minority.

 

[lame plumber]

riddor and check if the flue length is within limits as well

 

[Sharp Point]

riddor and check if the flue length is within limits as well

Don't suppose you know max length of vaillant ecotec poo...i mean pro!:smile5:

 

[Meady]

How many metres is that flue???

 

[Sharp Point]

How many metres is that flue???

Its seems the max flue length is 8m for the pro28, adding 1m for 90 degree elbow and 0.5m for each 45 degree. So the total flue length for that flue system is 7.7m, so just under.

 

[gassafe]

Looks a lot over the maximum flue length, including 90 off boiler, additional 90 & 2x45... Defs not enough fall, hence water pooling in flue & leaking through seals!

 

[Sharp Point]

The landlord is going to replace the flue for a vertical, which could've been installed in the first place ( there's a shallow pitched roof above) also notice the 3/4 mm overflow from condensate pump running alongside the flue. ( there's a gulley behind external wall, which wall is mounted)

 

[gassafe]

They obviously don't like vertical flue kits or taking tiles off lol! Nice few spare flue extensions for you 😛

 

[hammers4spanner]

To think this is someones property as well

 

[Sharp Point]

To think this is someones property as well

I know, it boils my p£ss!!

 

[joni os]

RIDDOR 11(2) is a blunt instrument. Expect HSE to inspect all Landlord's properties.
Ensure nothing you have done, or omitted to do, could be criticised. You would certainly lose a long term client.
Would it not better serve the interest of all parties, including his tenants, that he retains your services.
Give him a written report, and only if he responds in a hostile or dismissive manner would I proceed with a referral. You have 14 days.

 

[Rickster123]

That is hideous. Who has odd coloured kitchen doors?!?

 

[lame plumber]

RIDDOR 11(2) is a blunt instrument. Expect HSE to inspect all Landlord's properties.
Ensure nothing you have done, or omitted to do, could be criticised. You would certainly lose a long term client.
Would it not better serve the interest of all parties, including his tenants, that he retains your services.
Give him a written report, and only if he responds in a hostile or dismissive manner would I proceed with a referral. You have 14 days.

you miss the point of riddor, its to prevent idiots repeating this style of work again. Not to screw the landlord.

 

[joni os]

I would wish that were the case but unfortunately the Landlord is equally liable.

 

[Masood]

you miss the point of riddor, its to prevent idiots repeating this style of work again. Not to screw the landlord.

Sadly, it's highly unlikely they'll bring a prosecution for something like this.

 

[stevetheplumber]

Looks a lot over the maximum flue length, including 90 off boiler, additional 90 & 2x45... Defs not enough fall, hence water pooling in flue & leaking through seals!

i dont think you have to allow for the 90 on the boiler thats counted as part of the boiler im sure the measurements are from the outlet of that bend

 

[Masood]

i dont think you have to allow for the 90 on the boiler thats counted as part of the boiler im sure the measurements are from the outlet of that bend

I think so too...

 

[stevetheplumber]

I would wish that were the case but unfortunately the Landlord is equally liable.

and usually an easier target and richer hse no diferent to all of us anything for an easy life