4 pumps in our heating system OTT?

[StevenW]

Fit a Magnaclean pro 2 or similar instead of TF1

Ok, Why do you say that? Aren't they doing the same thing?

 

[Ermintrude]

Yes but driving a mondeo is very different to driving an Austin allegro

 

[Best]

Yes but driving a mondeo is very different to driving an Austin allegro

Both aren't babe magnets though! :smile:

 

[StevenW]

So why is one better than the other? There seems to be split opinion from what I've read.
I got the TF1 for peanuts on eBay as the seller put it under a really poor listing name. £41 delivered brand new.

 

[happyflyer]

Steve,

I don't think it matters what you install, if you have bought a cleaner for that price then you are lucky, the principle is simple and they all work the same way,
a very powerful magnet in placed in the main circuit back to the boiler and material that is suspended in the water with magnetic properties will stick to it,
the particles need to be suspended in the water, the cleaner will not move debris that is sat in the bottom of radiators etc.

When you first install it you may find loads of carp on the magnet but as time goes on it will get cleaner and cleaner.

Good luck with it, you will need to make sure you fit it in the right configuration, look at the instructions, the TF1 is nice in one respect there is a drain on the bottom so you can drain out all the water to add a full change of dosing chemical.

Engineers will have their own opinion I am like Ermi I like the looks of the Magnaclean its not as big and bulky, get it fitted and start to get the carp out!

Good Luck

 

[happyflyer]

Yes but driving a mondeo is very different to driving an Austin allegro

You are not that old that you ever drove an Allegro, if you did, what shape was the steering wheel.... I have had both and there is a few years of technology
in between so that was a carp comparison....:001_9898:

Happy New Year Ermi

 

[PhoenixServices]

Would agree with ermi. Magnaclean personally as had problems with Tf1s leaking. With regards to cleaners watch out for the cheap own brand stuff. As far as I can work out there are no standards on cleaners.

 

[happyflyer]

Would agree with ermi. Magnaclean personally as had problems with Tf1s leaking. With regards to cleaners watch out for the cheap own brand stuff. As far as I can work out there are no standards on cleaners.

Only engineers installing these on a daily basis like you would know this about leaks etc so its good you point this out, I installed and Adey at home and not one problem with it.
You might be right about standards for the product, not even a European one hey, how they missed this one I will never know, there's still time!!!

 

[StevenW]

Cheers guys for your views and opinions.

To be honest, read several threads about all the filters, some sware by one, some others, some say one leaks and done say the other does..

I got the TF1 compact so not quite as bulky unit. I'll fit it, see how it goes. If it leaks then I'll change it. It was so cheap that I'm willing to give it a go.


Off on a tangent here..
Do you guys think it's worth fitting one of these Grundfos Alpha 2 pumps on my upstairs 'zone' which is only Radiators, with 9/10 having TRV4s fitted. Maybe save a bit of energy?


Cheers
Happy New Year
Steve

 

[Ermintrude]

Won't save the cost of the pump in 10 years mate

 

[Ray Stafford]

Ok, Why do you say that? Aren't they doing the same thing?

Yes but driving a mondeo is very different to driving an Austin allegro

This makes me chuckle.

The difference between a Ford Mondeo and an Austin Allegro is nothing compared with the difference between walking and driving.

For any non-expert reading this thread - heres the important thing: Ensure that your GSR engineer fits a magnetic filter to your system. What make of filter is of trivial importance compared to having ANY filter - its like a diver questioning which brand of oxygen cylinder he has.

Sure, if you have plenty of money, and time on your hands, and nothing better to do - you might like to worry about the specifics. You sad, sad, dude.

 

[Whyme]

I dont get the last paragraph ray. Why's he sad.

 

[happyflyer]

Like, Ray says as long as its got a magnet in it, it matters not what the label is on the product.

I would take up issue with him on the diving, divers don't breath oxygen and here it does matter what the label is on the bottle, comes from your welding days Ray..

Just fit a mag-filter or any dam magnetic filter, we pay far too much attention to what we think is the best, I don't suppose for one minute that filter manufactures are
struggling to sell their products because they are crap, price to installer is perhaps top of the list for reason to purchase, if all the filters are similar in price, then what the easiest
to install will come next.

 

[Taffman]

3t rule?

 

[StevenW]

Looking at my current setup sketch on previous page..

There is two bypass' off the main flow to the return.
-One is a straight through 22mm short circuit and the other is a partially open gate valve.

Can I replace these with a single 22mm with an auto bypass valve fitted between?

thanks
Steve

 

[Ray Stafford]

I dont get the last paragraph ray. Why's he sad.

Because members of the public who worry about the first pass extraction rate of a magnetic filter, or indeed whether the o-rings get sticky after a few years, should spend more time on the fun things in life!

Its bad enough that we think about it, and we are paid to!