advice needed on new pipework on boiler

[a5ian300zx]

Hi All,

I am doing some work in newly bought house and the plumber had looked at the Valiant boiler and said it was very dangerous and needed piping inc few other bits of work but wanted to know how much that would cost as he quoted me £1600. he said the boiler is a good one and its fine just the pipework and other bit.

I am situated in London as i know London pricing can be different.

so currently the boiler is located in the kitchen and the kitchen is stripped down to bare bones as the new units have not been fitted yet.

Job
replace 15mm inlet gas pipe with 22mm pipe all the way to meter and earth the meter regulation standard
new flute which will be fully sealed (current one not sealed)
run a new gas feed from boiler to new hob (see diagram)
run new pipes for kitchen sink (see diagram)
redo whole piping under the boiler joining onto existing pipes located on left of boiler (check pictures)
this includes relocating the pipes to the bottom that go into the cloakroom toilet
redoing the two exit pipes outside
replace magaflow filter
powerflush (tank in loft disconnected now)
Gas mark safe certificate
replace sink and toilet in cloakroom toilet (which I have supplied)

he goes he charges £150 @ day and will take him 5 days to complete the work and the rest is materials.

so overall £1600 for the whole work.

is the above a good price or overpriced for the work needed?

any advice is appreciated.

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[Darren Jackson]

Over all sounds like a very good price. Just make sure and check the engineers credentials with gas safe before employing them and ask them for any references from other customers that have used them. Good luck.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

How old is the boiler ?

 

[a5ian300zx]

How old is the boiler ?

Sorry cant remember but the plumber said its not that old and its good model and make. I would guess around 8 years old.

looks like this boiler
https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/vaillant-boiler-leak.160070/

 

[gmartine]

Get more than one estimate and make sure all the work to be done is in copper.

Edit: Take a pic of the boiler, someone will have an idea what it is.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

If it's 8 years old it's coming to the end of its life span realistically 10-12 years max

 

[steadyon]

If he's charging £150 / day in London make absolutely sure he's qualified to work on gas, and qualified in his own name. Being qualified in his employer's name is not good enough unless you are paying his employer for the work. Have a look at Pimlico Plumbers price list for a comparison!

He must be gas safe registered to work on the flue and gas pipes.

 

[king of pipes]

It is a mess and for london rates its about the right price just check they are gas safe registered cheers kop.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

also the gas looks like its on the right in 28mm ????

 

[Scott_D]

The boiler case looks rusty at the bottom

 

[a5ian300zx]

Hi,

Thanks for all the advice.

The boiler looks like the one attached (its not a picture of my actual boiler)

External Pipe connections
C.H Flow (IN) / D.H.W Outlet (IN) / GAS Supply (OUT) / Cold Water Feed (OUT) / C.H Return (OUT)

 

[a5ian300zx]

also the gas looks like its on the right in 28mm ????

I think its 22mm pipe which is going up into the ceiling.

 

[Gasmk1]

The gas looks like 22 mm at least up to to the tee which then goes up and the 15 mm branch feeds the boiler ask him to check properly because the final connection on vaillants this age is 15 mm for the gas

 

[gmartine]

I think its 22mm pipe which is going up into the ceiling.

Point being if that's a 22mm or 28mm up to the tee it might not need upgrading back to the meter as quoted.

 

[jtsplumbing]

Photo of flue would be nice (Not sealed) To be honest 8 t0 10 year old boiler now is the time to replace it B4 new kitchen is fitted, Lots on the market with up to 10 year warranty, sod's law short time after kitchen is completed something major will go wrong with boiler They don't like the London hard water.

 

[a5ian300zx]

Hi,

The boiler is a ecotec plus 618 as per sticker and underneath it says ecotec Pro 28 r2.

I will upload the pic of the flue when I am on the computer next as it does not work on the phone.

Thanks

 

[a5ian300zx]

Picture of Flue and exit pipes on side of house.

He said will replace the whole Flue and redo the exit pipe so it goes to the drain as its dangerous as one will spill out hot water and the second (white) is mixture of Cabon monoxide and water.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yep they need sorting also something he didn't pick up on you need to check the rain down spout goes to main drainage and not a soak away

 

[a5ian300zx]

Yep they need sorting also something he didn't pick up on you need to check the rain down spout goes to main drainage and not a soak away

Hi,

Which one is the rain down spout?

Thanks

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Hi,

Which one is the rain down spout?

Thanks

The black cast iron pipe right of the flue that the white pipe goes into