And in another post you said "Good company, wouldn`t leave", time for that chat I reckon.
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Personally I think your getting underpaid, it also depends on what sort of bathrooms your installing, Ask your boss this, if he employed a seperate plumber, tiler and a plaster to do the job, how much would it cost him? If your doing a good job of everything then you should be on more.
Thanks for the advise ill keep that in mind
Scott_1979
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Genuinely, you would be getting more stacking shelves in Aldi.
Have a word with them, you deserve way more based on what you say you do.
Have a word with them, you deserve way more based on what you say you do.
You need to make yourself irreplaceable. Make them need you!
Once you are in this position, you can negotiate for a wage that you are worth. It’s a shame it’s that way. But not many owners will give a rise without you asking for one.
To get a rise, you should go in for a meeting explaining the things you already do,for the company. Then say what you would like to achieve. Driving is the bit where you are loosing out. So instead of a rise, why don’t you say you will commit to the company if they pay £1500 towards your diving lessons and test. That’s a £1.32 an hour rise. After you have been with the company one more year, it’s paid off.
At that point you will be in a better place to negotiate more money.
Good luck
Once you are in this position, you can negotiate for a wage that you are worth. It’s a shame it’s that way. But not many owners will give a rise without you asking for one.
To get a rise, you should go in for a meeting explaining the things you already do,for the company. Then say what you would like to achieve. Driving is the bit where you are loosing out. So instead of a rise, why don’t you say you will commit to the company if they pay £1500 towards your diving lessons and test. That’s a £1.32 an hour rise. After you have been with the company one more year, it’s paid off.
At that point you will be in a better place to negotiate more money.
Good luck
Matthew Score
Gas Engineer
Are you carrying out private work or is it for councils?
I think the fact you can't drive is having a big impact on your wage, speak to you boss about paying for you driving lessions and taking it out of your wages, I use to do if for all my guys. It means you will save Tax and Ni off the cost of the lessions.
Employees who don't drive can be a burden, I insisted that all my guys started lessions and made it apart of the offer of employment.
Speak with your boss, it's hard to find good employees that deliver a good job and can be trusted not to take the Sod.
I think the fact you can't drive is having a big impact on your wage, speak to you boss about paying for you driving lessions and taking it out of your wages, I use to do if for all my guys. It means you will save Tax and Ni off the cost of the lessions.
Employees who don't drive can be a burden, I insisted that all my guys started lessions and made it apart of the offer of employment.
Speak with your boss, it's hard to find good employees that deliver a good job and can be trusted not to take the Sod.
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Aire
At the end of the day, if your boss truly values you, he will listen to your concerns and act on them. Whatever you do though, don't put a gun to his head (because it's illegal 😛) and say I'm leaving if you don't up my wage. No employer will back down to an ultimatum, they will fear that if they do, you will keep using it or tell others to do the same.
Thankyou all for the advise
Beg borrow steal or get a bank loan ,and get driving - then go self employed . It’s hard to find someone who’s good at complete bathroom makeovers and you will make a lot of money once you get established . You work hard for a living and deserve to be paid well for it , ring a few bathroom fitters and get quotes for a new fit and this will give you an idea of what you could be earning.
I am based in Buckinghamshire.
If i could find half a dozen guys with your skills and pay them the same wage, I would be cleaning up.
For my area you are underpaid. A fully qualified bathroom fitter who cant afford driving lessons? What happens if one of your expensive tools breaks?
Listen to the older and wiser gentlemen here. Find a better paying job and then negotiate with your emplyer.
if you are living at home or dont haver kids, this is a no brainer. Go self empoloyed
If i could find half a dozen guys with your skills and pay them the same wage, I would be cleaning up.
For my area you are underpaid. A fully qualified bathroom fitter who cant afford driving lessons? What happens if one of your expensive tools breaks?
Listen to the older and wiser gentlemen here. Find a better paying job and then negotiate with your emplyer.
if you are living at home or dont haver kids, this is a no brainer. Go self empoloyed
I am not in the trade but from what you say you are young and getting little more than the minimum wage, you provide your own tools. I really think you are being exploited.
See if you can work out how much your boss is making from your labour. See if you can find the cost to the customer of a job, and see if u can work out how many days the job takes. You cost your employer £300 a week + on Costs, NI,Pension contributions then ther is insurance, and transport for you. Say that’s £400 a week. Now there are other costs that you need to earn to keep the business going, and your boss pays those. Premises, office staff, advertising etc etc. It would be possible to make informed guesses and work out approximately how much profit he makes from you a year after all the other costs.
He could easily be making £10k a year from you and each of his employees. Does he work at the job himself?
Are you confident to ask for a rise. Don’t ask, can’t get. Have you got any older relatives you could talk to.
You say you don’t really want to leave ... but you can’t, and stay in the same line of work , as you don’t drive. He knows that and will pay you as little as he can.
Driving qualifications will really help you. But that’s been said before.
Good luck, let us know how you get on.
See if you can work out how much your boss is making from your labour. See if you can find the cost to the customer of a job, and see if u can work out how many days the job takes. You cost your employer £300 a week + on Costs, NI,Pension contributions then ther is insurance, and transport for you. Say that’s £400 a week. Now there are other costs that you need to earn to keep the business going, and your boss pays those. Premises, office staff, advertising etc etc. It would be possible to make informed guesses and work out approximately how much profit he makes from you a year after all the other costs.
He could easily be making £10k a year from you and each of his employees. Does he work at the job himself?
Are you confident to ask for a rise. Don’t ask, can’t get. Have you got any older relatives you could talk to.
You say you don’t really want to leave ... but you can’t, and stay in the same line of work , as you don’t drive. He knows that and will pay you as little as he can.
Driving qualifications will really help you. But that’s been said before.
Good luck, let us know how you get on.
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