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Or right to be concerned?

I've never considered myself frail or suffered from any muscular/strength impairing conditions, although before I started learning plumbing in my late 20's I had a slight weakness in my knees (which meant jogging would result in discomfort and a very long walk wouldn't be a good idea either.) I'm not over-weight to any notable degree, I've lifted weights regularly for years and would describe myself as relatively strong and able-bodied.

But how I feel after a full day's plumbing is not something I'd describe so much as exhausting (although it is) but worrying. 'Exhausting' doesn't cause lasting damage. It just requires a rest. Pulled this, uncomfortable that, painful this, throbbing that, strained this - most of this stuff goes away, but some must incrementally accumulate and eventually become lasting damage. Usually I imagine you'll not realise the full potential effects until it's mostly too late. And they will differ person to person.

So what I'm asking is, am I being wimpish or prudent in considering the idea of plumbing part time and looking for other work to supplement it purely because an 8 hour day spent mostly on my knees, hunched over or hauling big rads around on my own is probably asking for an old age rife with pain and discomfort? They say if you haven't got your health, you haven't got anything.

But if I'm right - why don't I hear of any other plumbers doing the same thing? It it because most suspect they'd stand little chance of earning anything like what they do in plumbing doing something else and couldn't bring themselves to spend half their working week on 6, 7 pound an hour?

Also I wonder if a hard week plumbing is a bit like a hangover. I may feel terrible today and think "never again" but come monday morning I'll have forgotten all about it. Perhaps that's part of the problem.
 
What,lugging all those rads about,that are half the weight they used to be,same as the baths,cylinders and most things really
pulling about all that plastic pipe,instead of copper,cast iron and lead,removing floors and other structures with all kinds of power tool instead of by hand,reminds me of the boiler flues,we now grab a core drill and bosh ,done whereas, we used to have a hammer and chisel (most of the time to short),big cast iron boiler,trying to bolt to the wall,now you hold up with one had and drill with other, rickety old vans with no suspension and fully air conditioned in winter or a butchers bike with a cylinder in the basket,a roll of lead rapped around your neck and 6 sticks of solder in each pocket,the list goes on.................................. you thinking of going part time..............in answer to your question......... yes you are a wimp :wink_smile:
 
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What would you do if a custard rung, "ive got a leak, can you come round asap" sorry im working in asda till wednesday, can you call back 🙂

In all honesty though, even though its not half as bad as it used to be, (in puddles day :smile5🙂 its still a rotten job for the body even all the crap we breath in will catch up with us, im hoping to get more into boiler breakdowns. What about yoga? :smiley2:
 
What,lugging all those rads about,that are half the weight they used to be,same as the baths,cylinders and most things really
pulling about all that plastic pipe,instead of copper,cast iron and lead,removing floors and other structures with all kinds of power tool instead of by hand,reminds me of the boiler flues,we now grab a core drill and bosh ,done whereas, we used to have a hammer and chisel (most of the time to short),big cast iron boiler,trying to bolt to the wall,now you hold up with one had and drill with other, rickety old vans with no suspension and fully air conditioned in winter or a butchers bike with a cylinder in the basket,a roll of lead rapped around your neck and 6 sticks of solder in each pocket,the list goes on.................................. you thinking of going part time..............in answer to your question......... yes you are a wimp :wink_smile:

And generations before you would have had it even harder. And those before them harder still. And they would all consider you a wimp. And by your argument rightly so. It's a specious argument to justify something purely on the grounds it was worse before. People live longer as time goes on. Mainly because of better food and medical care but also because they're not stuck up a chimney and sleeping on floorboards from the age of 8.

I'm guilty of writing a provocative thread title and therefore asking for it I suppose. Curse my natural showmanship.
 
What would you do if a custard rung, "ive got a leak, can you come round asap" sorry im working in asda till wednesday, can you call back

Not say that?

Say the same as you might if you were ill? Or perhaps not even answer the phone?

I don't think the logistics are a nightmare. The money issues might be - depending on the work you get. I'm just wondering whether I'm exaggerating the long term effects of the work.
 
Listen to your body. If you think you might be doing harm, you probably are.

For example, if you don't eat because you're hungry another meal is missed won't do harm. However, do this day after day and you will create further problems, possibly long term. Ditto drinking, smoking, etc; that is, the odd drink or the odd smoke won't hurt you (despite what the state wants to tell us) but a continual "habit" will cause problems.

The same happens with muscles, tendons, etc. I don't know of any really good plumbers, builders who have started from around 20 years old and are still going after around 50 years old. They're just worn out. (I bet this applies to miners and farmers - we humans just start to wear out in our 50's and if we do continue the job it's on a part time basis or much less strenuous life.)

Not a wimp, in my opinion.
 
I know what you mean, In years to come we will all have work related injury's that plumbing has brought upon us =[ Most of my college tutors all had knee operations & rebuilds, not to mention bad backs, respiratory breathing problems from years of dust, fibres & asbestos hidden everywhere!

If I'm honest I would jump at the chance to quit plumbing & do something else less demanding! Being self employed puts alot of strain on the body, ripping out ideal mexicos and having to lug them to the van on my own aint my idea of fun... plus the money aint that great considering the hours we have to put in.

The only reason i will stick at it is because this is the career i choose, and dont really know anything else now.
 
Not say that?

Say the same as you might if you were ill? Or perhaps not even answer the phone?

I don't think the logistics are a nightmare. The money issues might be - depending on the work you get. I'm just wondering whether I'm exaggerating the long term effects of the work.

it was a joke pal, never mind
 
This is one that little is ever mentioned of to the career changers. Just how physically demanding this trade (any trade) is.
If you come into it as a school leaver your body is still growing and adjusts to the work you are doing. You get conditioned to it and don't notice. It is not until you get into your 40's you start feeling it. By your 50's you are really feeling it. You will ache in places you didn't know you had.
As you get older, if you are lucky, you will move to do less physically demanding stuff.
It is not just the muscles and joints. Everything you are breathing in day to day will get to you too. Then there is the stress!
This job probably will kill you in one way or another if you do it long enough.
 
I usually find that if I'm knackered and hurting then I've had a good week. And that means I get steak for tea, decent wine and abit of lovin off the mrs! It's swings and roundabouts in my house!
 
No your not a wimp,

You just have real and genuine health concerns.

Only you can answer them though.
 
can't stand fish so don't think i will be swallowing any sort of fish oil any time soon.
 
well i started in this trade at 12 as a boy working on Saturdays going strait to college at 16 to do a apprenticeship in tec one day a week working the other six i am now 35 not really feeling the aches but my back goes wrong big style every few months ,my dad whos been a plumber forever is relativity fit and has good health but at 57 as about half my strength struggles to lift boilers any more,and has had his knees fill with blood a few times and by 4 o clock is shattered mind he is up half the night with my mam(shes had a massive stroke) and the apprentice who works with him is a numpty so cant support him on the job
 

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