Am I being too sensitive?? feeling a bit stressed.

[armyash]

340 a week is what i take home, so yes £68.00 a day. 8.50 an hour i think. and this hourly rate drops as soon as im working past half 4. Wednesday i worked it to 6.80 an hour and there's been other days where it's worked out less than minimum wage.

 

[AWheating]

tell them you can no longer work over due to your going to be getting a second job stacking shelves to cover your bills.

it will tell them that you are not happy to work the extra hours for free and you need more money and are looking for work else where.

either that or ask to leave an hour early one day and tell the other workers that seem close to your gaffa you have a job interview for a better paying job.

most gaffas wont give you better money unless they believe they will have to.

 

[mountainman]

£340 a week is far too little for your talents.
:O

 

[armyash]

I am prepared to work for a reasonable wage considering my experience but this lack of experience is made up by my extra hours and willingness to do anything so I think i deserve more.

 

[MOSSEP]

£340 take home works out to about £81 a day, or £10.20 per hour for a take home pay. I think that it pretty low. Do they provide transport, fuel etc....

First see what other firms offer in your area, PAYE rates and sub contractor rates, that will give you some figures for your next move which it to ask for a pay rise - if you don't ask you wont get!

Good luck, I can't tell what your work is like without seeing it, but if you deserve it and you earn enough for your boss you should get it.

 

[northcarr]

I Think they are seriously underpaying you ash, I have worked for peanuts in the past. You need to relies just what you're worth it's easy to underestimate yourself at the end of the day you are gsr all the cost ,time and stress you need recompense. If plumbers/gas engineers are getting paid badly which seam's to be talked a lot about on the forum then change jobs, it appears companies want to pay trades all the same rate which to me is unfair a painter does not have to retrain every 5yrs (no disrespect to painters).

 

[armyash]

£340 take home works out to about £81 a day, or £10.20 per hour for a take home pay. I think that it pretty low. Do they provide transport, fuel etc....

First see what other firms offer in your area, PAYE rates and sub contractor rates, that will give you some figures for your next move which it to ask for a pay rise - if you don't ask you wont get!

Good luck, I can't tell what your work is like without seeing it, but if you deserve it and you earn enough for your boss you should get it.

Ok thanks for clearing that up regarding pay as i said i'd be honest about things so will say what i know.

Still doesn't change the fact that the other guys do a lot less but get paid more and don't do the extra hours i do.

First thing I will do is ask for a pay rise this week and see what they say, as already said i enjoy the work but I want what i feel is fair.

 

[northstar]

Ash I would ask for a pay rise, I would still make my own customer base in case it goes pear shaped at your work place

 

[armyash]

Thanks for all the replies. I feel more confident now to go in and have a word and ask for a pay rise. I have no problem working for them, I'm sure there have been times when they have wondered why they gave me the job but those days are past.

I'll see what gets said, if they say no to a pay rise then I'll be making it clear that come 4.30 I'll be finishing for the day like the others. It works both ways.

I can live on my current pay for now providing I am finishing on time.

 

[turnpin]

Hi ash Not knowing your status i.e wife kids mortgage etc etc I think you need to find another job I myself left without another job to go to over the guy cutting my money by 35 quid a week but like you I had the ethic to go to work as you have there is always agency work to fall back on even temporary basis Approach them about the things you have highlighted and its time to believe in yourself best of luck mate and keep us informed...regards Turnpin😀

 

[IDCHAPPY]

Guy sounds like he's taking the Mick in my opinion 🙂

 

[stevetheplumber]

they are taking the pee ash youll get better money than that anywhere a minimum of 13 per hour on cards with a van fuel card and phone included

 

[Killy Bing]

The pay for the situation a year ago was perfect

now personally think it's become a one way street and certainly not yours.

 

[PlumbersMate]

That's a fair rate for say first 6 months but you can earn more as a labourer. Would be a fair rate if you was working with another fitter and him showing you everything but not to be going out on your own

 

[stratplus]

Anyone know of any agencies for plumbers? Know loads for commercial catering but not plumbing.

 

[iain85]

Where in Kent are you Ash? I think that you should really consider starting to look for another job. Those rates for self employed are horrible. Sounds to me like your employer is a chancer and at the very minimum should be paying you for your overtime.
Like it's already been mentioned there is no way a fencer should out earn a gas engineer, newly qualified or not. The risk we take has to have a significant monetary value attached to it or it's just not worth doing.

You could sub to BG on servicing work ( boring to be fair) for 22 quid an appliance. When I last subbed to them during the induction I met a father and son firm where the son had literally just qualified and he was out subbing on his own.

Good luck what ever you decide. I suppose you could start by requesting minimum a pay rise to achieve parity with your other colleagues and then time and a half after 4.30pm. This should buy you time to find other employment and not fell like your being mugged off.

 

[julesverne]

Ash you need a raise. I pay my trainee 250 a week + overtime and dinners if I forget to make sarnies

 

[armyash]

That's a fair rate for say first 6 months but you can earn more as a labourer. Would be a fair rate if you was working with another fitter and him showing you everything but not to be going out on your own

PlumbersMate thanks for that, I have been down on myself thinking the boss is in the right because of my experience but like you said I don't have anyone going out with me, sure there's still plenty to learn but i'm doing the same work all by myself that if i left he would have to pay another engineer more to do the same work.

If he is happy for me to go out and work on my own then I think it's time he paid me the going rate.

 

[Killy Bing]

Ash would be a credit to any company he works for.

if i had the work workload id be asking him to work with me because frankly i wouldn't have to worry about the job one bit.

if anyone in kent needed a hand on a weekend then ash would be my suggestion.

 

[Destroyer2813]

You said that they would review your money based on a month by month basis this hasent happened so i would start the conversation of with ive been here a year now and havent had the pay review we talked about on my appointment can we organize a meeting to discuss this. Then gives you a chance to make notes of all the points you"ve mentioned to us