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i agree but im gonna go with the gut on this one. maybe a bit ott to some but personally the alarm going off and the fact it blows a gale up there even on the nicest of days is enough for me. In relation to installations....whats to stop someone fitting the boiler on a new install 200mm from window co2 testing room and then leaving it for someone to pick up. it just seems a blatant disregard to MI's and what they stand for
Welcome to our world!!:yes:
 
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Personally I find this situation a little contentious. But as long as you follow the Industry unsafe situation procedure which can be seen as a little woolly and BS7967 for the ambient testing then you have met your legal obligation.
 
All you can do is do all your checks and then classify it as it is. Try not to go over as most HA's have people who will check over everything to make sure they are being carried out correctly and definatley dont go under. But there is always ways around that though (As in if I want to fail something I will find a way to fail it) The good thing about HA work is they cannot leave it and even the NCS will get done (eventually) or at least it is with the HA I do work for.

You will come across loads of bad installs I came across a flue today wasnt sure if it was vertical or horizontal it had a vertical flue kit on it but came out at 45deg through the roof no signs of damage, spillage and clipped so NCS it should of taken a photo but was too busy laughing to myself.
 
Or you could just take into account years of experience and call those who sit on the board of regulations fear based decision makers!!!!!!🙂 IMHO 🙂

Contentious ... hmmm! I honestly don't believe that regulations can govern everything we see or do, as long as society is driven by a regime of litigation, rules will always err on the side of "worst case scenario" mentality... nothing to do with real world IMHO 🙂
 
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All you can do is do all your checks and then classify it as it is. Try not to go over as most HA's have people who will check over everything to make sure they are being carried out correctly and definatley dont go under. But there is always ways around that though (As in if I want to fail something I will find a way to fail it) The good thing about HA work is they cannot leave it and even the NCS will get done (eventually) or at least it is with the HA I do work for.

You will come across loads of bad installs I came across a flue today wasnt sure if it was vertical or horizontal it had a vertical flue kit on it but came out at 45deg through the roof no signs of damage, spillage and clipped so NCS it should of taken a photo but was too busy laughing to myself.

I think if i flag these things and there allowing me to rectify then surely its for the greater good. tomorrow brings a prv terminating out of the old cylinder overflow straight over a patio area but from what i can gather this is ntcs at worst or more likely to be a BR issue. I cant get over the sheer laziness and disregard to MI's in the last 2 days.
 
I cant get over the sheer laziness and disregard to MI's in the last 2 days.
Real world .... for me...35yrs!! ................. Do your job to the best of your ability and as the years past you'll learn to discern IMHO 🙂
 
I flag up everything I see and then go back to rectify it and your right it is for the greater good. What you have to remember is there are a fair few HA tenants who will either know their rights or will soon find them out and will not care less about yourself when it comes to them suing if something happens when you dont pick it up. But to this day not 1 tenant has allowed me to turn off their boiler for an AR but as long as I have that paperwork im happy.

How half these installs have been allowed I cant work out but thats not my job.
 
not sure if its the same for you milsy but a contractor was providing the installs and cp12s so it was all "in house" for them so easy to put these installs in and sign them off for x amount of time. until now. your dead right about them knowing "their rights" if only some of them had half a brain they could take HA's for a complete ride
 
It's the same I installed for HA years ago and we did a good job but done of the other contractors banged them in. But then we used to get inspections. All ours passed theirs didn't. But it's like that private as well but there does seem to be a lot more that haven't been checked properly for the past 5-10-15 years and I'm flagging them up now. On my last company it took for me to do this to bring the other lads standards up as soon as the boss called them in 1 by 1 saying you passed this last year and its now failed with an AR they soon started checking flues etc and the main thing was taking fires out and checking catchment spaces and chimneys
 
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