Called time on one of the lads plumbing careers today.

[Whyme]

Over the years as an employee ive had many an apprentice, some vacant some keen some non plus and i have to report back unfortunately no matter how much i like or dislike them. Some lads just cannot as long as thieve got a harris grasp the basic fundamentals of plumbing. Very fair of you to explain in such a way cos most bosses wouldn't.

 

[SimonG]

Times up. A screw up with pipes and water is an easy spot. Trying to find a swapped neutral and earth with the rcd popping is a different matter.

 

[lame plumber]

Apprentices are like trainee lifeboat crew, all muppets until one day you realise you wouldnt mind having them on a boat with you at one in the morning in a storm, but until then god help the one in charge, occasionally you have to show a few of them the door in order to get the right gang for the bad nights at sea..

 

[newcastle phill]

Who knows it might be the making of the lad.
I remember when I was young and was placed at a relative back street hovvel.
There wasnt the staff or the time to train as required.
I managed to get a move and things improved ten fold. More staff, more resources and better to access individuals with more rounded skills and time to train the right way. With proper structured work flow.

Now in some regards the same applies to you as applies to a trainee.
Where it comes down to is a trainee able to learn - are you able to teach ?
Some places can be too small, too ambitious to have the time.
They may think they do but on reflection as a young lad from my experience some just didnt.

Can port vale youth academy produce ronaldo ?
Now stick him at real madrid and you get a finished product that meets expectation.

One place i worked had an ethos that if a trainee failed - then the training department had failed. They vetted candidates at the outset and when expectations werent met the trainers had an inquisition with a manager borne out of a desire to realise thier investment and extra support was put in place as necessary.

Now i realise you arent a huge company but on reflection could you have done anything different or liaised with the college for support ?

 

[wetdrip]

One place i worked had an ethos that if a trainee failed - then the training department had failed.

Off the topic so my apologies to Croft.

When my kid was at college I took a great interest as to what was being taught and how, popped in a good few times, I did, and talked to the kid.
The course overran due to poor teaching and organizational skills.
I had a meeting with the college head and all the other big-shots plus the plumbing staff members and their immediate boss and his boss too.
Basically told them that they didn’t know there ar5e from their elbow, and that the staff were seriously lacking in many of the necessaries required to do their job and do it properly.
As one would expect, the senior staff backed-up their ground staff and nowt happened.
Well nowt happened that year.
The following year the senior staff cleared out every member of staff I’d said was useless.
As the same thing happen with the new influx of pupils.

Deservedly so, as their laziness was ruining young lives.

 

[leelister6]

Think you're handling it very well but what will he be like as a sparky? He doesn't seem to be able to follow instructions even after being told 3 or 4 times so what happens on a 1st fix, he forgets to label up his wiring, it all gets plastered in and you've got 2 miles of spaghetti and no-one knows whats what. Really hope he doesn't let you down and gets his head in gear cos a lot of people would have binned him a long time ago

 

[hammers4spanner]

Cycles of life in fairness can't be good at everything.

 

[Millsy 82]

Come on admit it, you just don't want to pay travelling time. Lol

 

[Riley]

Is this the same lad that pranged the van

 

[Destroyer2813]

Is this the same lad that pranged the van

Lost the key i thought

 

[Riley]

Ha ha the list continues hope we're not talking croft out of his decision

 

[cr0ft]

Lost the key i thought

Yes same one that did both..

 

[rpm]

Ask yourself would you do anything differently if the lad was your own son?

 

[Riley]

Ask yourself would you do anything differently if the lad was your own son?

Yes, play the I'm not angry just disappointed card

 

[cr0ft]

Don't think I would tbh. Met up with him for a informal chat today and he seems to agree about retraining as an electrician. Am going to give him one last stab at making a tradesman of himself.

 

[Nostrum]

Is he getting stoned every night, or staying up late watching TV? Maybe he just doesn't enjoy going to work or doesn't feel valued? Sometimes people need to change their personal life's to be better for work. Worth asking.