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lame plumber
nuclear propulsion is only safer coz those working with it have some superb training
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Can I fit a boiler, and then have it certified by a qualified gas fitter?
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REDSAW
so whats the problem with that?
The Royal Navy Ethos says clearly that we must avoid any activity which undermines our professional ability, or puts others at risk.
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lame plumber
from looking at the rules in the past, it may not be illegal either being as its not being don under the definition of work and the fact his skills exceed ours on most fronts.
Id have to surf in Wales!
Unless they are from Chernobyl
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lame plumber
so being shot at tends to undermine ones professional ability and firing back really does put others at risk as well, seems someone cocked up on their way to be a sailor routine.
If anyone does sign it off for him, I'd tighten your belts! I've heard about these navy people, it's all Vaseline and pillow biting!
Thats is if he is in the navy and who he says he is, it's quite possible that he's just a vagina (as proven by his later comments) who's after saving a few quid. If he was in fact of the status he claims to be, surely he wouldn't be asking silly questions in a plumbing forum? Surely a quick Google would give him his answer.
Anyway, I'm sure he'll be back on tomorrow as an airline pilot or a special agent asking if he can fit his own fuse box.
Thats is if he is in the navy and who he says he is, it's quite possible that he's just a vagina (as proven by his later comments) who's after saving a few quid. If he was in fact of the status he claims to be, surely he wouldn't be asking silly questions in a plumbing forum? Surely a quick Google would give him his answer.
Anyway, I'm sure he'll be back on tomorrow as an airline pilot or a special agent asking if he can fit his own fuse box.
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REDSAW
my cousin had to go to this Russian 'Nuclear Submarine' Kursk (i think it was that one) dive down to it and stabilise the reactor after she blew cptn!!
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Dotty
This argument gets trotted out time and again. GSIUR part b.
PART B GAS FITTINGS – GENERAL PROVISIONS
Qualification and supervision
3.—(1) No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so.
Mentions nothing about payments or lack thereof.
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REDSAW
severn bore will be good that year!!lol
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lame plumber
payment comes under the definition of work 🙂 fm memory. Can you define competence please John 🙂
love this thread already, so many grey areas. And did you all know that Greenwich university, once upon a time the RN staff college had its own nuclear reactor, in the middle of Greenwich that eco friendly, greenpeace anti nuclear local council place in London. You have never seen so many fire engines turn up for a faulty fire alarm, I lost count a 16 appliances within 10 minutes, that was one pig of a day to be the duty officer. I wonder if its been decommissioned now the RN has left.
love this thread already, so many grey areas. And did you all know that Greenwich university, once upon a time the RN staff college had its own nuclear reactor, in the middle of Greenwich that eco friendly, greenpeace anti nuclear local council place in London. You have never seen so many fire engines turn up for a faulty fire alarm, I lost count a 16 appliances within 10 minutes, that was one pig of a day to be the duty officer. I wonder if its been decommissioned now the RN has left.
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Dotty
You're not corroborating your own argument.
Competence comes with ccn1 and proven by registration as a gsr.
Where's the grey area?
Competence comes with ccn1 and proven by registration as a gsr.
Where's the grey area?
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If the term 'work' meant paid work, surely it would say so, in the same way vehicle operators licences work, where they mention 'for hire or reward'. If you use an HGV privately, you don't need an O license for it.
The gas safety laws have been designed to keep people safe, if a DIY job doesn't come under the scope of the set of laws, then it's hardly keeping people safe.
The only grey area I can see is whether the guy is an @rsehole or a complete @rsehole.
The gas safety laws have been designed to keep people safe, if a DIY job doesn't come under the scope of the set of laws, then it's hardly keeping people safe.
The only grey area I can see is whether the guy is an @rsehole or a complete @rsehole.
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lame plumber
the grey bit being your not allowed to carry out work unless competent and a member of a registered body.
work defined as paid
competence comes in many guises in law
registered body being gas safe. of course.
But in this case, the bloke would easly prove competence in his skills and ability, he isnt working, but of course not being registered wth gas safe isnt an issue if he isnt carrying out work as defined in the regs.
work defined as paid
competence comes in many guises in law
registered body being gas safe. of course.
But in this case, the bloke would easly prove competence in his skills and ability, he isnt working, but of course not being registered wth gas safe isnt an issue if he isnt carrying out work as defined in the regs.
Does this mean none GSR plumbers can charge for bleeding the radiators then give the customer a free boiler service? Is there a refund if we de-register part way through the year? No need to be registered after all! 😛arty:
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Dotty
HE ISN'T COMPETENT! He might be in submarines but not the gas industry.
How many times Jon. It's black and white.
3.—(1) No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so.
Leave it go now because I'm starting to get wound up.
How many times Jon. It's black and white.
3.—(1) No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so.
Leave it go now because I'm starting to get wound up.
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Whyme
Oooh i love it..
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lame plumber
hehehe need me on the other side of the fence John, just I know what the competences of these lads are from my previous life and also how poor our industry regs are defined. What you really need to do is send over a bottle of Irish, then I'd be a quiet bunny 🙂
But IF it does go off – it can take out more than one house, a street, a someone across the road. What are we gonna say here!? That’s cool, nothing to worry about – he was working (not paid) in his own house!? That’s not right!
Alex, that's the point I was making earlier.
I really feel that anyone encouraging illegal gas work (paid or unpaid, to remove any shadow of doubt) should have their registrations re-considered.
I really feel that anyone encouraging illegal gas work (paid or unpaid, to remove any shadow of doubt) should have their registrations re-considered.
He gets sued like anyone would, registered or not
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lame plumber
Work in relation to a gas fitting
51 For the purposes of these Regulations, ‘work’ includes do-it-yourself activities,
work undertaken as a favour for friends and relatives, and work for which there is
no expectation of reward or gain, eg voluntary activity for charities. This means that
anyone carrying out such work must have the necessary competence, as required
by regulation 3(1). However, membership of an HSE approved class of persons
(under regulation 3(3)) is required only by businesses carrying out gas fitting work.
so you dont have to be gas safe to do voluntary work or diy really, but as croppie states you have to prove competence, ie 3.1 of the regs. It was my point that this chap could probably prove his competence through his training and skills in his current role, which few seem to realise what his job actually involves, and immediately jump down his throat and get fairly obnoxious. that was my only reason for jumping on the alternate opinion route.
51 For the purposes of these Regulations, ‘work’ includes do-it-yourself activities,
work undertaken as a favour for friends and relatives, and work for which there is
no expectation of reward or gain, eg voluntary activity for charities. This means that
anyone carrying out such work must have the necessary competence, as required
by regulation 3(1). However, membership of an HSE approved class of persons
(under regulation 3(3)) is required only by businesses carrying out gas fitting work.
so you dont have to be gas safe to do voluntary work or diy really, but as croppie states you have to prove competence, ie 3.1 of the regs. It was my point that this chap could probably prove his competence through his training and skills in his current role, which few seem to realise what his job actually involves, and immediately jump down his throat and get fairly obnoxious. that was my only reason for jumping on the alternate opinion route.
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REDSAW
did a job today service a boiler, guy said he used to do it himself for many years.. he is a solicitor! haha
Brownie points will be gained though.
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lame plumber
If you look at it, people can, could and do anything they want. The only thing is, one day something can go proper wrong and there will be a price to pay - a fine, a stretch. That’s fine as long as there’s no collateral damage, no innocent victims.
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Ray Stafford
Jesus, I have one evening off, just one, and this happens!
Holy Moly.
Holy Moly.
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Billy Bob Bob
he loves seamen:smilielol5:
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lame plumber
Ray has been at home installing his boiler on the side 🙂
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