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You keep telling yourself that Stan.
Leo there is no way she will find out what I type on the phone here pal
Glad you seem to have calmed down a bit now Stan, I think you got completely the wrong end of the stick when reading my post.
If someone sent home all the non indigenous people in this country of ours there would be no one left, full stop, let alone that nice long list of yours.
Go back far enough & we are all incomers, so where do you want to draw the line.
If someone sent home all the non indigenous people in this country of ours there would be no one left, full stop, let alone that nice long list of yours.
Go back far enough & we are all incomers, so where do you want to draw the line.
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Ray Stafford
I reckon we should all deport ourselves back to the great rift valley in East Africa. 🙂
And I will have to get out of heating, and into air con!
it was you suggesting "asked to leave " so is you to explain ! I did not begin this .....
I am as usual cool 🙂
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Ray Stafford
Apart from the BNP, I don't know of any political party who has an expulsion policy (except in the case of convicted criminals).
I don't know much about any political party's in the parliament and there ideas .
I am a plumber and I care about wining jobs and delivering quality installs and collecting payments (so that's my professional site of life )
Going back to post 53 !!! This is the explanation I am on about CW !!!
I am a plumber and I care about wining jobs and delivering quality installs and collecting payments (so that's my professional site of life )
Going back to post 53 !!! This is the explanation I am on about CW !!!
OK Stan I have had a beer or 3 & it is my birthday at the stroke of midnight so will do my best!! What part of my post do you want me to explain or which bit are you getting all up-tight about?
The posts to this point in the thread had been leading in a general direction downwards to a point where all incomers to this country were beginning to be branded together as unwanted scroungers with IMHO race overtones. There are some parts of the population & some parts of the political spectrum that call for all so called immigrants to be deported back from where they came from.
So the point I did not make that clear was that if they came to power you could find yourself added to this list whatever your value to our society.
P.S. I have given you work from time to time so strange that you think I would want to have a go, Mate. or am I overreacting now ?
The UK has been invaded or taken over or just added to by foreign peoples coming here for centuries.
No doubt some of this was nasty enough, but also it has meant Britain has gained from what many of these foreigners give, like certain skills, ideas, intellect etc.
The difference in the present day is a lot of these people are for themselves & not for Britain. The biggest menace I personally think is religious fanatics, who become an enemy within - a country within a country in fact. Cost it has to be said must be serious for to pay for the large amount of immigrants who don't pay their way ( & that also applies to all the born in UK scroungers ). Something needs to be done about it as it is creating a lot of bad feeling & resentment to anyone who doesn't claim benefits. Can't help thinking how good the UK would be if all that wasted money was put to proper use.
No doubt some of this was nasty enough, but also it has meant Britain has gained from what many of these foreigners give, like certain skills, ideas, intellect etc.
The difference in the present day is a lot of these people are for themselves & not for Britain. The biggest menace I personally think is religious fanatics, who become an enemy within - a country within a country in fact. Cost it has to be said must be serious for to pay for the large amount of immigrants who don't pay their way ( & that also applies to all the born in UK scroungers ). Something needs to be done about it as it is creating a lot of bad feeling & resentment to anyone who doesn't claim benefits. Can't help thinking how good the UK would be if all that wasted money was put to proper use.
I don't care who is here, I just want everyone in this country to show their worth. This means working!! No one should be admitted to sit on @ss and draw benefits, likewise our homegrown scrounges should not be allowed to make a living out of benefits. Some families are now 3rd or 4th generation claimants which is fundamentally wrong. I'm not going to use the words national service but something needs to be done to enforce a working ethic in certain groups
Happy Birthday Chris ,
Now , you asked me to draw a line , and I simply said ( it's you to make a call , as it was you who did suggest "ask to leave " ) ..
I am migrant and I have said many times I disagree the way things go in London so this is why we have moved out of London !
Yes ,you have passed jobs to me : and I have looked after every each one of this people and provided services to the best of my knowledge !
Any how , I hope they do something about it as other ways M25 will have to stretch as far as South as Southampton and as far as north as Northampton
Now , you asked me to draw a line , and I simply said ( it's you to make a call , as it was you who did suggest "ask to leave " ) ..
I am migrant and I have said many times I disagree the way things go in London so this is why we have moved out of London !
Yes ,you have passed jobs to me : and I have looked after every each one of this people and provided services to the best of my knowledge !
Any how , I hope they do something about it as other ways M25 will have to stretch as far as South as Southampton and as far as north as Northampton
Have seen it all on HA jobs , and all they were doing is giving them new kitchens+bathrooms +new central heating just to keep them happy and shut there mouths so they don't complain and nothing changes and as you said 3/4 and soon will be 5th and 6th generation .......
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You will have to help me out here Stan, I do not understand what you are getting at with the above? " you asked me to draw a line" "it's you to make a call , as it was you who did suggest "ask to leave ""
I am not sure if you think I was suggesting that you leave the country cos that was not my meaning.
(I am just glad you have left London, less competition for me. LOL)
Stan you're reading it totally wrong mate. What I think Chris is saying is if certain people come in to power then even people like yourself, who have worked from the day you arrived here, will be asked to leave, purely because you're a foreign Bastood
Like a said Lee , that's not a problem for me or my family and I don't live under thread that I could be evicted or kicked out or "asked to leave" , You out of all members here know me best .....
My question was how is this going to happen and where is Britan going to get all new :
hotels owners , restourant owners , corner shops , high skilled office staff , low skill holding site labour , solicitors , accountants , doctors ....list goes on ......
When there was almost a WW3 few weeks ago , USA wanted UK to apply sanctions over Russian business man in UK :
then on TV was a discussion that this is almost impossible as they the Russians are doing 10% of the total business in London/UK + they are owners of lots of High end property's ......
So I was not the one suggesting posible "ask to leave " so please explain how is this Posible to happen without having a GENOCIDE ?? Is this what you are suggesting ???
I just can't see this happening in modern world ....
My question was how is this going to happen and where is Britan going to get all new :
hotels owners , restourant owners , corner shops , high skilled office staff , low skill holding site labour , solicitors , accountants , doctors ....list goes on ......
When there was almost a WW3 few weeks ago , USA wanted UK to apply sanctions over Russian business man in UK :
then on TV was a discussion that this is almost impossible as they the Russians are doing 10% of the total business in London/UK + they are owners of lots of High end property's ......
So I was not the one suggesting posible "ask to leave " so please explain how is this Posible to happen without having a GENOCIDE ?? Is this what you are suggesting ???
I just can't see this happening in modern world ....
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No I don't think it could happen, it's not possible, and tbh I wouldn't like it to happen. England would be a horrible place if it was only English living here IMO, for starters there wouldn't be any rich doctors to rip off
You lier ......
Yes I've been there three times. Twice told not entitled to anything, third time didn't bother just went straight back into work luckily. Thats after working 27 years for this country.
If you own your own house your screwed. If your partner works your screwed. If you've not got kids your screwed.
You need to leave school with no quals, get someone up the duff, get council house. All doors then open for you, housing benefit, council tax benefit, unemployment benefit, child tax credit, working tax credit, child benefit. Free dentist treatment, free nhs prescriptions, free boiler, free insulation etc etc.
Happy days 😉
Happy days 😉
Don't forget the free car for all the kids so they can take them on free holidays, Its a shame they have to pay for own petrol,
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Ermintrude
Genocide would be the answer to a lot of our problems ...... My uncle adolf said.
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Ray Stafford
Is that when you kill all the people called Jenny?
Your uncle was a good man , discipline , dedication + hard work did win the World Cup 2014
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Ermintrude
My uncle learned me engwish
I don't think you are wrong at all
History of the English language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Whyme
Got the telly this time pal..TBH its the same old same old, That persons here for work, that persons living in squalor begging for penny's,that persons got a job and imported his family.. 60's.70's,80's,90's,2000's to now. Each decade has had the "england's going too sink due to the sheer weight of people attitude". it's the way it is, always has been and always will.
I haven't read all the posts on this thread, so I may be repeating stuff.
I honestly see the biggest problem being the minimum wage.
Why would you bust a gut for £7 p/h, or even take a wage reduction from being on the dole.
Meanwhile Tarquin and Rupert get richer and import loads of cheap labour from European countries. There is a clause that can stop anymore people coming in, but they won't use it!
Im not for kicking people out, or selective discrimination, but we're full.
I honestly see the biggest problem being the minimum wage.
Why would you bust a gut for £7 p/h, or even take a wage reduction from being on the dole.
Meanwhile Tarquin and Rupert get richer and import loads of cheap labour from European countries. There is a clause that can stop anymore people coming in, but they won't use it!
Im not for kicking people out, or selective discrimination, but we're full.
So when are you going to start picking the crops in our fields & give up the plumbing lark, then Leo ?
The reality is, as Stan was suggesting, this country of ours can not survive without our cheap labour imports.
So what are you suggesting, do away with the minimum wage ? One of the universally accepted success stories in the fight to stop labour rates being driven down to the lowest possible levels by the so called markets, the "old race to the bottom" ?
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(I am reading "excepted" as "accepted". My apologies if this was not your intent)
Minimum wage is more complicated in its economic effects than that. And it certainly is not universally accepted as a success story by economists, although it may be accepted as inevitable by politicians.
It tends to inflate the price of services, and shove manufacturing jobs overseas. This is because of the old economist's saying "you can't get your haircut in china" - a short hand for the fact that cutting hair, serving coffee and making beds in a hotel is not a function you can outsource to china. However, the higher you set the NMW, the more you incentivise producers of moveable products to offshore the production.
The NMW in Britain is set at quite a low level, so it has limited economic effect. I doubt you will find any subject on which economists all agree, but I can absolutely guarantee that price control (which NMW is a form of) is certainly not such a subject.
I'm not saying its right or wrong. As I said, at the current level, I think its pretty irrelevant.
Why you all see just the last lot of immigrants , and class all immigrants to be low skill ? Have you ever been to city of London and all big company's with highly educated people ,or doctors , solicitors .........
all I can say is the goverment is doing it in purpose to lower living standards and have house market boosting , which than only selects the self enthusiastic and dedicated people out of all that migrate here ! And at the same time most of all the English people are getting there benefits cut down , and making them realise that this will not go for any long .......
From today they start speaking about giving opportunity to sick people to end there life ( in my eyes they just want to save money by not looking after them )
its all faccccccked up , tbh
all I can say is the goverment is doing it in purpose to lower living standards and have house market boosting , which than only selects the self enthusiastic and dedicated people out of all that migrate here ! And at the same time most of all the English people are getting there benefits cut down , and making them realise that this will not go for any long .......
From today they start speaking about giving opportunity to sick people to end there life ( in my eyes they just want to save money by not looking after them )
its all faccccccked up , tbh
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