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[hiretools]

[h=5]Gas Engineer[/h]

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[h=6]Job No:[/h]BIH/31761

[h=6]SOC Code:[/h]5314

[h=6]Wage[/h]£6.25 per hour

[h=6]Hours[/h]30-40 per week, Monday to Friday, between 9am and 6pm

[h=6]Location[/h]Bilston, West Midlands WV14

[h=6]Duration[/h]Temporary

[h=6]Date posted[/h]21 October 2011

[h=6]Pension details[/h]No details held



[h=6]Description[/h]Applicants must hold a full clean driving licence and be Gas Safe registered or capable of registration with the company. Experience of repairing boilers is a must. Must be a team player and all-round employee as the business caters for all home maintenance. Applicants must be honest and have a good work ethic and be willing to help out in all areas of the business. Vehicle will be provided. This position is temporary to cover a trial period (duration to be confirmed), may lead to permanent for the right applicant.

[h=6]How to apply[/h]You can apply for this job by telephoning 0786 2282195 ext 0 and asking for Makhan Ram.

[h=6]Employer[/h]Direct Home Improvements (Gas) Ltd

 

[mikimac]

I hope the position is still available :77:

 

[hiretools]

I just cant believe the cheek of some companies we go to collage and then do the gas on top and they offer us what I can only equate to minimum wage for experienced tradesmen I hope everyone sees that and boycotts it cheap labour is not what made britain gr8 I can tell you that m8.

 

[mikimac]

I hope everyone sees that and boycotts it :6:

LOL..Theres a picture in my mind of the type of Neanderthal (the ones that bought their qualifications at the 'less reputable facility') that might go for this job. If the bottom fell out the business altogether Id still rather switch my brain off & flip burgers for a living without any of the stress & worry in what we do than even consider selling my soul to these blood sucking leeches.

 

[jase158]

A wet plumber earns more then that

 

[fuzzy]

people are greedy, when times are good employees ask for top rate, when boots on other foot employers drive down wages, its just the way it is

 

[WaterTight]

-What do you do?
-I'm a gas safe registered heating and plumbing engineer.
-Sounds lurcrative. How much do you earn?
-About £50 a day before tax.

 

[bob the plumber]

has anyone rang the number? because if not im quite up for giving the cheeky knob a ring 🙂

 

[bob the plumber]

not for a job 😀, but just for taking the wee out of advert 🙂

 

[Barry98]

someone will go do it for the experience though , beggers why we bother. like most i dont get out of bed for less then a 3 figure sum. and ive had less then 9 days off since the year begun

 

[LegionellaSlave]

has anyone rang the number? because if not im quite up for giving the cheeky knob a ring 🙂

It's a complete joke!!😀

I'm ringing in the morning.

Anyone else...?

:33:

 

[CES]

That's taking a Liberty.. £6.25 an hour? on the other end of the scale..

[h=5]Gas mobile Service Engineer[/h]
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[h=6]Job No:[/h] CGI/56439

[h=6]SOC Code:[/h] 5314

[h=6]Wage[/h] £32,000-£34,000 per annum

[h=6]Hours[/h] 37.5 per week monday-friday 7.30am-5.30pm

[h=6]Location[/h] London CB24

[h=6]Duration[/h] Permanent

[h=6]Date posted[/h] 18 October 2011

[h=6]Pension details[/h] No details held



[h=6]Description[/h] To service and maintain building services, plant and equipment in accordance with relevant standards, frequencies and safe working practices. To respond to re-active break downs, carry out fault finding and any necessary repairs. Applicants must have a good all round technical ability and a working knowledge of a wide variety of building services equipment. Must hold relevant trade qualifications.

[h=6]How to apply[/h] You can apply for this job by telephoning 01279 466177 and asking for Tracy Marler.

[h=6]Employer[/h] Henry Recruitment Ltd

I know this is in London but thats a bit more like the wage I would be looking for (if I was looking of course!)

 

[Barry98]

That's taking a Liberty.. £6.25 an hour? on the other end of the scale..

Gas mobile Service Engineer


Vacancy from

Job No:

CGI/56439

SOC Code:

5314

Wage

£32,000-£34,000 per annum

Hours

37.5 per week monday-friday 7.30am-5.30pm

Location

London CB24

Duration

Permanent

Date posted

18 October 2011

Pension details

No details held



Description

To service and maintain building services, plant and equipment in accordance with relevant standards, frequencies and safe working practices. To respond to re-active break downs, carry out fault finding and any necessary repairs. Applicants must have a good all round technical ability and a working knowledge of a wide variety of building services equipment. Must hold relevant trade qualifications.

How to apply

You can apply for this job by telephoning 01279 466177 and asking for Tracy Marler.

Employer

Henry Recruitment Ltd

I know this is in London but thats a bit more like the wage I would be looking for (if I was looking of course!)

but the college advert said 55-60k min

 

[bob the plumber]

i just rang him, his phone went to voicemail, he must be either inundated with interested engineers or so sick engineers asking him if he had missed at least the number 1 before his 6.25 per hour 🙂

 

[mikimac]

To rub salt in the wound there's labouring jobs my end for £7.00 plus per hour....shovel anyone? :bucktooth:

 

[Guest123]

I just cant believe the cheek of some companies we go to collage and then do the gas on top and they offer us what I can only equate to minimum wage for experienced tradesmen I hope everyone sees that and boycotts it cheap labour is not what made britain gr8 I can tell you that m8.

Don't want to sound political but calling Britian "Great" is a joke these days. Anyway check your atlas and we live in the United Kingdom, but I'm Scottish and come our referendum in a few years time, we'll hopefully be an independent nation.

 

[hiretools]

I hope the Scottish do System 3 us English could do with the independence of Scottish fresh faces... hehehehe...

 

[WaterTight]

I blame Mel Gibson.

 

[hiretools]

I blame Mel Gibsons ex missus

 

[jobyhants]

i tell you whAT i would take it if i had the gas cert bcos im a newbie gets me on the lader

 

[Pipes Plumbing]

And that gents sums it up...

For the person new to the trade with no experience, wanting to get a foot on the ladder it looks like an opportunity, even though they may not have the experience and skills to do a good safe job on their own.
To those in the trade already with experience and skills, capable of doing a great job regardless of what comes up unexpectedly it seems like a joke.

I really wonder what the employer wants though? I reckon they are after a time served engineer...
What's the phrase here... "Beer money but Champagne tastes" - never going to happen.

As soon as the position gets filled another will come up at a similar rate and so on... This is how labour rates get knocked down and down. 🙁

It's even worse when these ads are public because customers then think that your standard rate is too dear when it is really reasonable.
everyone loses

 

[Guest123]

I blame Mel Gibson.

No I blame you lot for voting for the "Two Ronnies" that we now have in the UK government that are the most unpopular and unsympathetic pair of human beings since Attila the Hun.

Up here we at least have a decent government that cares for all the people and not like Cammy and Cleggy who blame everything on the last government and don't take responsibility for their own mess and also couldn't care less about any one outside the London region.

 

[capitanpugwash]

Hi System3

Shame we couldnt have held onto Brown with his prudent and wise management of the economy. What can anyone do taking over a vast government debt which had been run up larger and larger over 10 years of boomtime. Might have felt nice, but it was never going to last. As our debt gets larger and larger as a country we eventually end up paying over 10% of tax revenues on servicing this vast debt- a figure rising every year. Is this a wise thing to do?

Have you heard of the Barnett forumla devised in the 70s to distribute tax revenues according to need in the late 70s. Since then it has not been altered despite the originator (Joel Benett) describing it as "unfair". In The Scotsman, in January 2004, he wrote, "It was never meant to last this long, but it has gone on and on and it has become increasingly unfair to the regions of England. I didn't create this formula to give Scotland an advantage over the rest of the country when it comes to public funding."

The South-East currently receive £6300 per head from tax revenues and Scotland £8600 per head. So when you talk about having great leaders north of the border you must be referring to the abolition of prescription charges, tuition fees and the like. All of which are funded out of subsidies from the South.

Personally I think a parent who continues to buy goodies and treats for his kids with an ever rising credit card bill and unmanageable mortgage would be irresponsible. Would you like to end up like Italy with a generous but disfunctional father and a crumbling state? As for the claim that the gruesome twosome don't care about anyone outside of London is grossly wrong as shown by the Barnett 'subsidy'. If you do vote for independence then be aware of the consequences after a few years when the subsidies have gone and the debt builds as the potholed roads need maintenance and charges start reappearing.

I am not anti-Scottish, and think the union dissolving would cause all parts to suffer as we are stronger united- both economically and politically. I just struggle to bite my lip sometimes when I read such ignorant spouting about your 'decent' government. Follow Alex to independence at your peril!

:grouphug:

 

[Deleted member 25704]

Over the last 25 years working class wage inflation has been high. I have enjoyed a good standard of living, and have supported a family, I feel sorry for those starting out.

However, wage inflation amongst a majority of a population, impacts on national inflation, which the government seek to keep low at this time and in the near future.

The skills gap, was really only about bringing down wages, and creating a demand-led system of apprenticeships and training, that does not require employers - no future skills gaps because people can be trained and assessed in colleges. The labour force can be supplied with as many operatives as want to join.

Add to this the fragmented nature of the uk work force - those self employed are only interested in themselves, so have failed to challenge the strategies put through by sector skills councils and awarding bodies - the self employed have no represntation to talk of, because those that profess to represent us, are happy to keep it the way it is (big firms are unaffected by lower working class wages, its what they want.

£6.25 per hour for workers is the only way Europe can function, which is what all the financial fuss is about - in Greece, hair dressers were on 60k a year for a 36 hour week, and able to take early retirement.

Given that self employed people have to pay insurance, accountants, banks, van hire, analysers, tools, holiday pay, training, licences, registrations, paper work etc. I would argue that this £6.25 an hour with a van, equates to about £15 an hour as self employed.

We also seem to forget that being self employed plumber or gas fitter, depends on advertising, surveying, landing work, paying for materials, doing the job to a satisfactory standard, getting paid, and meeting your overheads. Try taking time off, if you are a self employed company director (one man band) and you will be entitled to nothing, no sick pay, nothing. A one-man-band Ltd company has to pay its own sick pay, to a director that is sick.

Installers will be falling over themselves for £6.25 per hour.

This wage also equates to the qualification required to do the job - ACS and 40 days of work experience! - it would take longer to train someone to stack the shelves in Lidle.

 

[Guest123]

Captianpugwash, nothing furthers the cause of Scottish Independence more than English people bleating about how they subsidise Scotland. The UK treasury has plundered North Sea Oil revenues for years, and in a Nation where we are supposed to be the biggest oil producers in Europe, we have one of the highest fuel prices.
Scotland has a small population of 5.5 million people which is only a fraction of the population of London and we MORE than pay our way in this so called "United" Kingdom.
The Barnett formula is outadated. We have asked for a more fair and updated system and more important REAL powers to raise more of our own revenue, but sadly successive UK governments have refused this.
I can supply you with FACTS and REAL figures that have been verified by leading economists that can prove that Scotland actually pays more into the UK treasury than the bile spewed out by some uninformed people South of the Border that see what our government up here is achieving while the Tory/Lib Dem coalition blame everything on the previous administration and are doing very little that is constructive to improve the economy. We have record fuel prices, food prices, inflation is rising and most of our industry has very little confidence in either a short or long term future.
I'll take Alex anytime over Cammy and Cleggy. At least he has achieved a hell of a lot under restricted circumstances unlike those two. Independence will be good for both Scotland and England as we can move forward as equal partners sharing the same head of state and forging closer ties. At the very least it will stop people down there whinging about us Scots being subsidy junkies.
Finally the barnet formula was slashed this term, it's unfair, but the reluctance of the UK government to give us more control over making our own revenues is equally unfair.