Concern re new Install of Duel Fuel Cooker

[Robbo1982]

Hi Guys,

First time here. Quick question…. I have purchased a large (expensive!)fisher paykel cooker which the plumber has connected. The main gas runs straightup from the floor (point of entry in new extension to the left of the cookersay 1m away), up the wall (I think this is part of regs requirement) and thenalong the full length of the cooker so from left to right in copper, terminatingin a L shaped bracket (bayonet connection?) which then has a flexible hoseconnected to it which runs from Right to left and is connected to the Cookers gasinlet. The rebate on the cooker on the left with the connection piece isprobably in the way which is why he couldn’t use the L shaped bracket …. The onlyproblem is the cooker now sticks out away from the wall by 2 inches or so depthof copper pipe, L shaped bayonet thing plus flexi hose.

Whats in the regs / building standards that prevented himfrom using say a straight bayonet (instead of L shaped) if they exist and thenthe flexy hose and keeping everything on the left hand side of the cooker.Would prevent the run of copper pipe along the back wall of the cooker as well.

Whole thing seems an odd way and im not satisfied withcurrent set up given the cavity at the back of the cooker away from the wall… ishe being lazy / using kit he had on him or is he so limited by the regs that thisis the the only thing he could do? Any suggestions / views appreciated!

(btw he is gas safe and is in the process of commissioningthe new boiler system he installed)
cheers

 

[ShaunCorbs]

could you post a pic up of the bayonet and gas flex/cooker hose install

 

[Robbo1982]

thanks Shaun, didn't get the chance to do a snap last night... will do so tonight and post up! cheers

 

[Masood]

You can buy straight bayonet connectors, and there is no regulatory requirement to run pipes from one side of the appliance to the other.

 

[stevetheplumber]

you can get turned back plate elbows to keep it close to the wall

 

[Robbo1982]

 

[Robbo1982]

hi guys sorry for the delay... hopefully you can see from the pics what i am talking about! the rebate for the cooker has the cooker fed connector which is the ONLY possible reason that i can see that he used the L shaped bracket (is this a bayonet? is that the right term?) at the other end... seems like a waste of copper to me... i did check and he is 75cm off the floor the vertical rise from the tiles before the 90 degree bend... and the flex hose isnt touching the floor...

Be interested to understand if its laziness or if i should be gettting a second view on the boiler install before he commissions his work.... :-S (im hoping lazy!) and any work arounds really appreciated as i suspect he just doesnt 'think' to the left of the cooker will be draw units and i would be prepared to have a small filler if the L shaped connector thing is REALLY required and a flexy wont work or whatever ... Views appreciated! cheers guys

 

[ShaunCorbs]

look ok apart from what you said and get him to stick a straight wall connector on it, but i still wont be able to go back flush to the wall as the pipes there if thats ok go with the straight wall connector

post some pics up of the boiler if you want

 

[Robbo1982]

cheers Shaun... if he removes the existing copper and finishes his pipe work say 20cms or so away from the cooker he can accomodate the straight connector in the rebate behind the draw unit (there is a standard size rebate) and then run the flex hose...? would that breach anything as far as you can see? Keen to get the cooker flush as poss against the wall!

will be able to post pics of boiler tom as havent moved in yet! but it is a system boiler with a combi on the side... tons of pipe work!

 

[ShaunCorbs]

as long as you can get as the flex easy and can unhook it easy i would say your ok (dont box the flex in too much tho)

 

[stevetheplumber]

you need to change the nack plate elbow for a backplate straight female iron then the bayonet socket will lay flat against the wall
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[Robbo1982]

Cheers Shaun and Steve... i needed the terms so i can articulate to him ! i am ok to have a blank/ filler piece of wood if it means he can run the flatplate straight through the draw rebate and then run the flexy hose from the other side. Key thing being to keep the access so i can switch out the cooker in the future without having to dismantle the kitchen units etc. also makes sense for servicing etc. will see what he says..... and probably a quite short fleixi!!

thanks for the assistance chaps... will post boiler pics in due course (still cant fathom why he thinks its cool to have an inch gap at the back of the cooker?!)

 

[ShaunCorbs]

you mean like a false back in the cupboard if so yes (fitted with screws) just make sure you can get the whole head/bayonet through the hole you drill in the side

and some cooker have a bit that over sails at the top

one thing to note make sure/ask, is the gas supply is good enough/sized right ie able to handle all the burners on and boiler running max