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Mine (the only one) was a woman who asked me to quote to replace her bath. Did the job, got paid and left.

About two weeks later, she phoned me to say that she had returned from weekend at mums and water was leaking through her ceiling. Rushed round and found big bulge in kitchen ceiling. To stop ceiling collapsing I pierced it with broom handle, got soaked, and isolated at stop tap.

Went up stairs and found radiator in bedroom leaking due to rust at base, (must have been leaking for a few days) so drained system. Told her what the problem was and offered to fit new rad. No price asked. Purchased rad and inhibitor and fitted new rad filled system adding inhib, and charged her £180.00.

Told her that she would now need to get someone in to replace ceiling.

She refused to pay me as she insisted I must have caused the leak when I fitted the bath. Tried to explain, but got nowhere. In fact, she wanted me to pay for a new ceiling and kitchen floor which had been ruined.

I just walked out. Never heard from her again.

A year later, I returned having confirmed she was not at home, turned off her water supply in the street and then filled the void with postcrete. Don't know how much it cost her o get it put right, but was probably 20 times what she refused to pay me.
 
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Have you had any? If so tell us about them, what happened and how you resolved it or...

Mine (the only one) was a woman who asked me to quote to replace her bath. Did the job, got paid and left.

About two weeks later, she phoned me to say that she had returned from weekend at mums and water was leaking through her ceiling. Rushed round and found big bulge in kitchen ceiling. To stop ceiling collapsing I pierced it with broom handle, got soaked, and isolated at stop tap.

Went up stairs and found radiator in bedroom leaking due to rust at base, (must have been leaking for a few days) so drained system. Told her what the problem was and offered to fit new rad. No price asked. Purchased rad and inhibitor and fitted new rad filled system adding inhib, and charged her £180.00.

Told her that she would now need to get someone in to replace ceiling.

She refused to pay me as she insisted I must have caused the leak when I fitted the bath. Tried to explain, but got nowhere. In fact, she wanted me to pay for a new ceiling and kitchen floor which had been ruined.

I just walked out. Never heard from her again.

A year later, I returned having confirmed she was not at home, turned off her water supply in the street and then filled the void with postcrete. Don't know how much it cost her o get it put right, but was probably 20 times what she refused to pay me.

immature and not funny.
 
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You have to laugh at the fact of sum1 doing what he did... Turning the water off and pouring concrete down XD LOL
 
would she have had to pay to get it sorted seeing as its the water authorities ?
 
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Still got to keep the relationship professional, even if this situation does happen
 
op you might get in deep trouble for a such a thing ! delete you post before some one trace you down


you do realise this site is watched !!! and threads never get deleted from here !!!
 
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The stop tap in the street is nothing to do with the customer, the waterbard would ave popped out and repaired it. It might be that they would have paid her or her water being off!!!!
 
While tempting it can be a really dangerous practice. Imagine if someone was on a course of medicinal drugs that required water ...
 
Hes probably said it as 'banter' just like what we all are like on a building site... 🙂 hes a professional, friendly plumber who wouldnt dream of doing any such act 🙂
 
Had many, will have many more but thats part of the job.

What you should have done is taken the rad back out or just agreed the price before starting
 
I would have walked upstairs and pulled the radiator off the wall and walked out the door with it......I have no patience for ignorant customers like that
 
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The unprofessional attitude of some of the posters on this thread beggars belief. The correct course of action would have been to discuss the issue of payment before starting work and there would be no need for childish reactions like filling holes with postcrete or ripping radiators off walls. If you are in the right then use the small claims court to get your money. It's nice to imagine having all sorts of nasty revenge against people but your reputation of being professional is more important.

Is it any wonder that people won't employ a professional plumber with the attitude of some of the posters on here.
 
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The unprofessional attitude of some of the posters on this thread beggars belief. The correct course of action would have been to discuss the issue of payment before starting work and there would be no need for childish reactions like filling holes with postcrete or ripping radiators off walls. If you are in the right then use the small claims court to get your money. It's nice to imagine having all sorts of nasty revenge against people but your reputation of being professional is more important.


Wrong small claims court not worth anything and you would need a bullet proof case to get your money , which if you win they may offer to pay tenner a week then not make first payment prompting a 2 year process to start again , note if you lose you incur costs .,

As having been in this position before i would take the rad off as its still rightfully yours , leave the house with it still attached and your never getting inside the house to reclaim it as its trespassing .

besisdes seen many a posts on here from reg users on here stating to poor compo down stopcock etc ,,,,pot kettle here methinks
 
No need for me to delete, as it happened some time ago and not in the area where I now reside.

Small claims court, waste of space. Revenge tastes best when served cold. :8:
 
You will never see a post on here from me advocating vandalising someone's property. I would rather lose money than sully my reputation. What I will do to a bad payer is make sure that everyone that I know is told about them so they struggle to get a decent tradesman to do any more work for them.

Had a customer a good few years ago refuse to pay the full bill for a water heater repair saying that there was no way that the spares could have cost that much despite us charging the spares at cost because they were expensive and showing her the bill. We ended up being out of pocket on 2 hours labour so I put the word about that she was a bad payer. About a month later someone bricked the double glazed unit in her front window, probably a drunk because it happened late at night. She lived opposite a glazing company but they refused to come out and mend it because of her bad payment record, I knew the company director and had worked for him in the past. That window remained broken until she sold up and moved on. I retained the moral high ground but she suffered for her actions.
 
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No need for me to delete, as it happened some time ago and not in the area where I now reside.

Small claims court, waste of space. Revenge tastes best when served cold. :8:

Not my business at all but this is a wrong attitude for a tradesman , me think !
 
So you guys just swallow the loss? Dont you guys have anything in place? Ive done some research and theres a regulation that for late payments you can charge 8% interest per day (which is what most banks pay if your in the overdraft)
 
Im a big believer in what goes round comes round,so i try to forget and move on,but after saying that i always tell them of extra costs before starting
 
So you guys just swallow the loss? Dont you guys have anything in place? Ive done some research and theres a regulation that for late payments you can charge 8% interest per day (which is what most banks pay if your in the overdraft)
id like toknow where you get an 8 percent overdraft try 18 percent
 
Pity there aint a website where we could put all the bad payers/pain in the arse customers so we know who to avoid. Mebbe the mods could start a new section!
 
I see the holier than thou brigade is out.
I personally wouldn't have vandalised the stop tap but the "customer" definitely wouldn't get away unscathed.
In my opinion taking the rad back out would just be mitigating my losses.

When it comes to non payers I think they should have their pets nailed to their front door as a first warning. Aside from a burglar I think a non payer is the most repulsive kind of thief.
 
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I am sure we all have felt like concreting someone's stopcock - but I would never do it!

Jesus you lot are aware that poor members of the general public are going to read this thread - maybe next time they will be better payers!!!!

Prevention is the best cure - learn to spot a nightmare job before you quote. Then either walk, or increase quote accordingly based on how much of a nightmare they are . . .

I now refuse to pay for big items up front (like boilers and baths), 50% cash down on my labour or I walk straight away. I get them to sign a contract just in case . . .

Must have been stung for thousands by now - people do it cause they think they can get away with it.

I am a sole trader not a big company with insurance. I have kids and have to pay rent. I cant afford to lose a months wages cause some 'bstd' is having a paddy!!!

The thing is there is no protection for us at all. I have lost my first limited company because of customers from hell, and I am winding down my work right now as I cant be arsed.

I might get a job at Asda - the wages might be low, but at least I know I will get them at the end of the week!!!!!!!!!
 
I see the holier than thou brigade is out.
I personally wouldn't have vandalised the stop tap but the "customer" definitely wouldn't get away unscathed.
In my opinion taking the rad back out would just be mitigating my losses.

When it comes to non payers I think they should have their pets nailed to their front door as a first warning. Aside from a burglar I think a non payer is the most repulsive kind of thief.

Yeah we should tar and feather them as a warning to other tradesmen!!!!

Or lets start on online database of non-payers - you can put their name in before taking a job to see if they have already stung anyone else!

It would be great cause the non payers wouldn't be able to get anyone to do any work for them, and would have to carry out all their repairs them selves! There house is the one held together with gaffer tape!

Nice one!
 
Yeah we should tar and feather them as a warning to other tradesmen!!!!

Or lets start on online database of non-payers - you can put their name in before taking a job to see if they have already stung anyone else!

It would be great cause the non payers wouldn't be able to get anyone to do any work for them, and would have to carry out all their repairs them selves! There house is the one held together with gaffer tape!

Nice one!

I think that is a great idea but their will be the people who have been ripped off them selves who would be on the list aswell.
 
He should have told her the cost before he started simples. I have a couple of customers a year who don't pay, I just keep calling them until they crack, all else fails I tell them that I am paying it on there behalf. Surprisingly people don't like to think of them selfs as charity cases. Sometimes people just haven't got the money, if that's the case I ask them to pay what they can and move on. Went you ain't got nothing ,you got nothing to lose, is my attitude.
 
ooooooh, you should remove this. Can't believe you did that to a customer. No matter how dickish they are, there is a line!! You've got to see it from her perspective, she was frightened and didn't know what had caused the problem.
 
Ha, no. Just had a bit of empathy for a fellow human being. We in the trade can often forget that our customers are people too.
 
Think is for the people who 'allow' customers to not pay you. Im suprised you can afford to let this slip. I have interest rates in place and once there aware of this they soon pay up! Just like me not being able to afford a 80k car which we all wud like, write them a cheque just to let it bounce and say "o i cant pay you" sorry but nothing is for free!! You will and should do anything to get your money that youve worked hard for!!
 
Good point koogatubac, at no point was I suggesting that it's ever ok for a customer to not pay.
 
Go over to the Screwfix forum they are all a bunch of pirates, and treat customers like scum if they don't pay!

Concrete in the stopcock is just starting for them! Peeing in the water tank, hiring thugs the list goes on . . . .
 
Go over to the Screwfix forum they are all a bunch of pirates, and treat customers like scum if they don't pay!

Concrete in the stopcock is just starting for them! Peeing in the water tank, hiring thugs the list goes on . . . .

If they don't pay they're not customers. I have no sympathy lol.
 
ooooooh, you should remove this. Can't believe you did that to a customer. No matter how dickish they are, there is a line!! You've got to see it from her perspective, she was frightened and didn't know what had caused the problem.

Please... Are you saying that she did not know the leak in her radiator was from rust?

And somehow this was my fault.

If someone wants to rip me off, they will suffer consequences. End of.
 
Please... Are you saying that she did not know the leak in her radiator was from rust?

And somehow this was my fault.

If someone wants to rip me off, they will suffer consequences. End of.

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