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I had the old style dewault for ages burnt out a couple of combi drills abusing them holesawing but the rest was fine now got the new style stuff circ and recip saws impact and drill driver and angle drill and torch not had any problems here
 
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Who really needs an impact driver?
Noisy as hell and will shatter a bit into razor sharp fragments that fly everywhere.....I havent used mine for at least 18 months.
Combi drill is far better.
 
Who really needs an impact driver?
Noisy as hell and will shatter a bit into razor sharp fragments that fly everywhere.....I havent used mine for at least 18 months.
Combi drill is far better.

yea im still using hitachi and makita drill/drivers and dont have an impact driver..
if it were not for the fact that I can smell the motors when they run, I wouldnt be changing my kit 🙂
 
You have to use proper impact bits for an impact driver.
My Hilti impact is 160 Nm of torque. A really powerful combi drill is maybe 60 or 80 Nm, so while this power is plenty for most screwdriving and drilling, it is not enough for screwing in or removing very long screws and coach bolts or nuts easily. Mine has 3 levels of selectable torque, which I think is where a lot of people go wrong, - if you use too high a torque or an impact driver that only has full power torque, then it is no good. My impact can be set to much lower torque than what a combi normal is.
The impact drill puts no strain on your hand and arm, unlike a combi under load. Also much shorter than a combi and no chuck, which is a big advantage.
 
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You have to use proper impact bits for an impact driver.
My Hilti impact is 160 Nm of torque. A really powerful combi drill is maybe 60 or 80 Nm, so while this power is plenty for most screwdriving and drilling, it is not enough for screwing in or removing very long screws and coach bolts or nuts easily. The impact drill puts no strain on your hand and arm, unlike a combi under load

and always helps use good quality screws

for bits i only use wera impaktor and screws spax or on plugs screwfix quick sliver
 
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and always helps use good quality screws

for bits i only use wera impaktor and screws spax or on plugs screwfix quick sliver

I edited my post to mention the impact drivers really need to have adjustable torque levels. If it is a basic impact driver that just puts out full power, then it will wreck screws
I use Hilti impact bits and I got some Dewalt bits. I must get some Wera bits.
 
I edited my post to mention the impact drivers really need to have adjustable torque levels. If it is a basic impact driver that just puts out full power, then it will wreck screws
I use Hilti impact bits and I got some Dewalt bits. I must get some Wera bits.

tbh you dont really need adjustable torque levels, its more down to trigger control once you have mastered that your fine

and there the best
 
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Who really needs an impact driver?
Noisy as hell and will shatter a bit into razor sharp fragments that fly everywhere.....I havent used mine for at least 18 months.
Combi drill is far better.
Your using the wrong bits.
My small 10.8v dewalt can drive larger screws deeper than my 18v drill.
I personally find it faster for putting screws into plugs and its also lighter and easier to handle.
 
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I use my Milwaukee M12 Impact driver (don't smirk) all the time for the small stuff, it has 120Nm and even though it has a lower setting I rarely use it. Either I use trigger control or pulse the trigger to avoid smashing heads and bits, an 18v ID with 150 +Mm is more of a wrench, it does need lower settings otherwise it's far too powerful for smaller delicate work.
 
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