ebay hilmor benders wast of time

[tiling spread]

well my benders was droped off too day buy courier.
first over look of them and it wasnt good and as for bendsing pipe well im 50/50 on that at the mo
im starting to think there not hilmor,s at all but a cheep copy and i meen cheep too.
i know there rebuilds but there isnt even a hilmor or glm stamped on them like the real ones you get from the shops. or a good standard of workmenship on them.

no end cap

bolt that holds hook on is too long so it has pulled the paint off the arm

a better look

formers are really cheep too

tryed some bensds and the pipe rippels hook needs a good file down to stop stabing pipes
really stiff to use
well im off too screwfix after the new year to get a real set of glm's im so narked
the lads on here that have orderd a set im sorry for posting the link on here and wasting your time and money 🙁

 

[fuzzy]

they look like himor but yes old machines can ripple, is the former of poor construction? that usually affects the ripples

 

[tiling spread]

the formers are so bad and the benders are too ill be geting a set from screwfix soon i gess as i cant use them ones
the lads that have orded a set please please let me know what you think of them

 

[fuzzy]

you could always sell em on as second hand

 

[tiling spread]

lol yer i just mite

 

[tiling spread]

on your hilmor benders lads is it stamped with there trade mark ie glm or hilmor or irwin

 

[PuraTherm]

I've got these same benders. Never really had a problem with them except they were quite stiff at first. When I got them I contacted the company because they advertised them as Hilmor referbished. I noticed that there were no Hillmor markings. The company claimed that they had been the primary manufacturer of the Hilmor benders before the process was sent overseas. Try contacting the company that makes them. The company that made mine was benditnow.co.uk. If that is the same company. Good luck.

 

[tiling spread]

there is a link some were on how to improve you benders iv seen it on here please help

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

must say mine are not like this and they do have hilmor stamped on them,have not had these problems

 

[Dotty]

Any of you chaps seen the 15mm only hilmor benders? what a waste of space and money!

 

[WHPES]

Mine are genuine Hilmor with Hilmor stamped on them. Had for years and never any problems.

 

[dontknowitall]

After reading this I'm keeping mine in a safe ...

 

[tiling spread]

but are they frome ebay tho

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

mine,i think you can see hilmor quite clearly,tiling spread get back on to the seller mate as you can see mine and yours are very different

 

[tiling spread]

dit you get yours from bend it now on ebay or from the shop m8

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

yes same place only got mine a year ago

 

[tiling spread]

thanks m8 hows your set ic meen was there caps missing dougy formers guids and a wafty paint job are the side of your formers painted gray

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

no formers are fine ,no caps missing and mine are in a lot of use your set tbh looks very different i would complain

 

[tiling spread]

i am m8 thats a defo

 

[Blackcatgas]

Ive had mine 14 years, Ive worn the paint smooth Ive had a new set of spoons for it but it still bends lovely, It was £70 14!! years ago.

 

[tiling spread]

are your formers plane metal or painted im meen the formers on the benders not the blocks
gas man

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

plain metal no paint

 

[tiling spread]

thanks m8 you a grate help im goner kick off proper

 

[REDSAW]

think you have the made in china ones!!!!!

 

[Avatar]

it looks like your one are cheap ones, spray painted yellow!

I would report the seller to ebay, who take a dim view of false advertising and should sort it for you!

 

[poppyppop]

If you read the benditnow advert on fleabay, about 4 lines down, it says they no longer carry the hilmor mark, for legal reasons, don't know if that's a con or not. Waiting for mine to arrive,a bit peedoff now iv'e heard they're crap.


Edit; Also e-mailed them, giving them chance to respond on here.

 

[quality]

I have got got mine they seem ok to me and I have used them this morning

luck of the draw perhaps

ps I aint left feedback yet

 

[tiling spread]

can you post up some pics please m8

 

[tiling spread]

hows them benders then lads

 

[tonto33]

looking at getting one of these myself are they worth it or just cheap chinese crap?

 

[quality]

Mine seem ok i.e. they bend pipe no ripples (22 mm) as said luck of the draw perhaps

 

[Caldy]

Had mine delivered yesterday, they look spot on but haven't used them yet. Will let you know if i have problems

 

[Guest123]

I've just bought a BC35 floor standing machine from benditnow and the quality is amazing and surpasses my old Hilmor. It produces nice tight bends with no throating or rippling and the bending pressure is adjustable. Buy direct from their website NOT ebay as they are much cheaper there and postage is also included.

They are a British company and deserve some recognition for manufacturing a quality product. Hilmor jumped ship to the Far East because it's cheaper, leaving yet another British company to struggle and pick up the pieces.
BUY BRITISH, not foreign imports!!!!

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

mine are still doing what they should

 

[Guest123]

Gasman, you also got yours from Benditnow?

 

[tamz]

A stand up machine (any make) will always give better bends than a hand bender

 

[Caldy]

Had mine delivered yesterday, they look spot on but haven't used them yet. Will let you know if i have problems

Update: have used today before taking to work and they work fine.

 

[AWheating]

had my benditnow stand bender for a few years and it has yet to do a bad bend. Well tell a lie, a few sets where off but that was the idiot using the benders fault LOL.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Gasman, you also got yours from Benditnow?

yes,its a refurbed hilmor

 

[Guest123]

What's the difference between the Irwin Hilmor GLM on Screw fix for £60 and the reconditioned ones costing more?
Gas man and AW like you can I can vouch for Benditnow. A good British company making a quality British product, not foreign import muck.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

What's the difference between the Irwin Hilmor GLM on Screw fix for £60 and the reconditioned ones costing more?
Gas man and AW like you can I can vouch for Benditnow. A good British company making a quality British product, not foreign import muck.

dont know what benditnow are selling the glm for now but my recon ones cost 30 quid delivered,at the time hilmor were 90 quid new

 

[Guest123]

There going for £35 plus £10 postage, for a few pounds more I'd tend to go for a new one. Gas man you got a good deal on yours.

 

[MattWeth]

Does anyone know if the screw fix benders (despite being miss-spelled as hilman) the real deal or are they some sort of screw fix cheapo version?

http://www.scr*wf*x.com/p/irwin-hilman-glm-pipe-bender/63880

 

[WHPES]

Ask to have a look at them in store.

Originally the Hilmor brand was made in the UK - the old ones everyone knows and loves, and like rockinghorse poo now.

Irwin (American Tool Companies) took over Record (Record already owning Ridgway and Marples) a few years back and Hilmor and as we all know from the news, the Record factory in Sheffield was soon closed and production moved to China. All "Made in England" lettering on the dies were removed. As far as I am aware, the old Record Ridgway factory still stands, a neglected and folorn sight, a crumbling reminder of when Britain once led the world in manufacturing.

The stuff you get now is made using the same tooling, but that is where it ends. None of the kit is the same as the original British made stuff, and the woodworking tools particularly are awful compared to the old Marples brand.

If you have any old Marples / Record / Ridgway tools, then do look after them and hand them on to the next generation. The quality of them is unlikely to be seen again in this current world of buy cheap, wear out and chuck out.

 

[MattWeth]

As you say, I'll try to get a look at them in the store (although I guess you'd have to try them out on some pipe to really know if they were any good). That said, they must be better than the cheap scr*wfix ones I bought last year (shouldn't have listened to a mate) - they're bl**dy awful and leave a crease down each side of the bend from the edge of the former.

I've got a few old record planes and my bench vice is a Record 6" No 25 - must be 40 years old and feels like it's got another 100 years in it yet.

 

[WHPES]

Like Record, the Irwin name is all that remains of a once renowned US tool manufacturer

 

[WHPES]

Have a look on Ebay for 2nd hand Hilmor (with the name) and blue Record ones as even 2nd hand these will be better than today's offerings. FOrtunately I have my Grandad's 30 year old Hilmor bender he bought just before he retired and hardly used.

 

[Guest123]

It appears that the reconditioned original Hilmors by Benditnow are better than the cheap ones sold on Screw fix. That is another downside of online retail that you can't try before you buy.

As far as hand benders go I really struggle to bend 22mm on one so I use it rarely and mainly for 15mm. I've got a cheapo blue one (Heavy duty pipe bender it's called) and it produces alright bends but not nearly as good as my floor standing machines.

I couldn't justify buying a Hilmor floor standing machine at the price they retail at. The Benditnow BC35 is identical, lower priced and every bit as good, if not better.

 

[scotty plumber]

That's nae good min how much do you pay for a refurbished hilmor? I got a genuine one last week for 60quid

 

[Guest123]

That's nae good min how much do you pay for a refurbished hilmor? I got a genuine one last week for 60quid

Was it a brand new modern version or an original Hilmor? The originals are far better than the modern ones now made in China.

 

[scotty plumber]

Was it a brand new modern version or an original Hilmor? The originals are far better than the modern ones now made in China.

How will i find out the difference? It work's great and it looks original

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Ask to have a look at them in store.

Originally the Hilmor brand was made in the UK - the old ones everyone knows and loves, and like rockinghorse poo now.

Irwin (American Tool Companies) took over Record (Record already owning Ridgway and Marples) a few years back and Hilmor and as we all know from the news, the Record factory in Sheffield was soon closed and production moved to China. All "Made in England" lettering on the dies were removed. As far as I am aware, the old Record Ridgway factory still stands, a neglected and folorn sight, a crumbling reminder of when Britain once led the world in manufacturing.

The stuff you get now is made using the same tooling, but that is where it ends. None of the kit is the same as the original British made stuff, and the woodworking tools particularly are awful compared to the old Marples brand.

If you have any old Marples / Record / Ridgway tools, then do look after them and hand them on to the next generation. The quality of them is unlikely to be seen again in this current world of buy cheap, wear out and chuck out.

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