ebay hilmor benders wast of time

[Billy Bob Bob]

What's the difference between the Irwin Hilmor GLM on Screw fix for £60 and the reconditioned ones costing more?
Gas man and AW like you can I can vouch for Benditnow. A good British company making a quality British product, not foreign import muck.

dont know what benditnow are selling the glm for now but my recon ones cost 30 quid delivered,at the time hilmor were 90 quid new

 

[Guest123]

There going for £35 plus £10 postage, for a few pounds more I'd tend to go for a new one. Gas man you got a good deal on yours.

 

[MattWeth]

Does anyone know if the screw fix benders (despite being miss-spelled as hilman) the real deal or are they some sort of screw fix cheapo version?

http://www.scr*wf*x.com/p/irwin-hilman-glm-pipe-bender/63880

 

[WHPES]

Ask to have a look at them in store.

Originally the Hilmor brand was made in the UK - the old ones everyone knows and loves, and like rockinghorse poo now.

Irwin (American Tool Companies) took over Record (Record already owning Ridgway and Marples) a few years back and Hilmor and as we all know from the news, the Record factory in Sheffield was soon closed and production moved to China. All "Made in England" lettering on the dies were removed. As far as I am aware, the old Record Ridgway factory still stands, a neglected and folorn sight, a crumbling reminder of when Britain once led the world in manufacturing.

The stuff you get now is made using the same tooling, but that is where it ends. None of the kit is the same as the original British made stuff, and the woodworking tools particularly are awful compared to the old Marples brand.

If you have any old Marples / Record / Ridgway tools, then do look after them and hand them on to the next generation. The quality of them is unlikely to be seen again in this current world of buy cheap, wear out and chuck out.

 

[MattWeth]

As you say, I'll try to get a look at them in the store (although I guess you'd have to try them out on some pipe to really know if they were any good). That said, they must be better than the cheap scr*wfix ones I bought last year (shouldn't have listened to a mate) - they're bl**dy awful and leave a crease down each side of the bend from the edge of the former.

I've got a few old record planes and my bench vice is a Record 6" No 25 - must be 40 years old and feels like it's got another 100 years in it yet.

 

[WHPES]

Like Record, the Irwin name is all that remains of a once renowned US tool manufacturer

 

[WHPES]

Have a look on Ebay for 2nd hand Hilmor (with the name) and blue Record ones as even 2nd hand these will be better than today's offerings. FOrtunately I have my Grandad's 30 year old Hilmor bender he bought just before he retired and hardly used.

 

[Guest123]

It appears that the reconditioned original Hilmors by Benditnow are better than the cheap ones sold on Screw fix. That is another downside of online retail that you can't try before you buy.

As far as hand benders go I really struggle to bend 22mm on one so I use it rarely and mainly for 15mm. I've got a cheapo blue one (Heavy duty pipe bender it's called) and it produces alright bends but not nearly as good as my floor standing machines.

I couldn't justify buying a Hilmor floor standing machine at the price they retail at. The Benditnow BC35 is identical, lower priced and every bit as good, if not better.

 

[scotty plumber]

That's nae good min how much do you pay for a refurbished hilmor? I got a genuine one last week for 60quid

 

[Guest123]

That's nae good min how much do you pay for a refurbished hilmor? I got a genuine one last week for 60quid

Was it a brand new modern version or an original Hilmor? The originals are far better than the modern ones now made in China.

 

[scotty plumber]

Was it a brand new modern version or an original Hilmor? The originals are far better than the modern ones now made in China.

How will i find out the difference? It work's great and it looks original

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Ask to have a look at them in store.

Originally the Hilmor brand was made in the UK - the old ones everyone knows and loves, and like rockinghorse poo now.

Irwin (American Tool Companies) took over Record (Record already owning Ridgway and Marples) a few years back and Hilmor and as we all know from the news, the Record factory in Sheffield was soon closed and production moved to China. All "Made in England" lettering on the dies were removed. As far as I am aware, the old Record Ridgway factory still stands, a neglected and folorn sight, a crumbling reminder of when Britain once led the world in manufacturing.

The stuff you get now is made using the same tooling, but that is where it ends. None of the kit is the same as the original British made stuff, and the woodworking tools particularly are awful compared to the old Marples brand.

If you have any old Marples / Record / Ridgway tools, then do look after them and hand them on to the next generation. The quality of them is unlikely to be seen again in this current world of buy cheap, wear out and chuck out.

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